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Old 04-07-2009, 11:11 AM
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Domestic China Girl Problem

hi all

my scenario is abit different from the commercial turned emotion problem,

the story is my uncle , a 53yrs old divorcee met this china girl in heng chun while he is working there, she is 30yrs old.


due to my uncle is a divorcee, he lost out the sale of the old flat to his ex wife, my uncle abit of the submissive type so all the profit his ex wife took n ran away. he is now staying with my grandma in a 5rm flat, granny is 80yrs old n stays alone.


prob is, the more i see this china girl, the more i feel she is not here for love,


at home, she wear spagaetti straps and short denim shorts n put on MAKE UP.


ytd wen i visit my grandma she was wearing make up as usual with a spageatti silk dress meant for sleeping.


problem is, this china girl eventually brought her sister here with her daughter to study here.


her sis n niece are renting a place somewhere, since its only my grandma in a 5 rm flat,seems like they are thinking of taking over the house, the sister has been popping by nearly everyday,sometimes staying over night.

most of my uncles and aunties are typically white collar workers with high positiions, so as u know it, academic smart but not street smart.


my parents are the quiet type, due to they are one of the eldset, as u know back in old chinese family, the 1st few child normally have to quit school early to help out in the family business while the younger ones normally have better education.


for the society now, power and money speaks more louder, as u can imagine, my parents and a few elders normally take a more backward role in family discussions

the white collars, being street-stupid, treat this china girl with open arms and welcome her warmly,

recently after she ROM with my uncle, her PR kept on getting rejected, (to all bros here , does this mean she got lousy record here b4?)


some of my white collar uncles and aunties actually helped her obtain PR by going thru other "powderful" means


my qns here to all bros, wad do u guys think ? my uncle is fast approaching 55 for CPF withdrawal, he shld have quite alot since the old flat sale and he hasnt bought a new place since.


am i being paranoid ? overturn the sampan because of one person ? or she is jus a normal persons searching for a better life ?

based on ur experiences here, wad are ur views of a typical china woman, scheming ?
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Re: Domestic China Girl Problem

Dear TS

1)You should observe her from far before you can conclude her character and attitude

2)You may 1 2 tell your uncle not to give her "Too much allowance"
or else might spolit her.

3)Inform your uncle not to open any bank accounts with her name or joint account must be both signatories - No ATM card also.

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Re: Domestic China Girl Problem

I feel bad for you braddah. you are the only one with your eyes open and can see afar what is happening. is it commong for prc gal just to move to sg and not "work" in the KTV business? Ask yourself. I think one good approach is for you to move into that house too and see their reaction and as a warning. if they blackface you then you know what to do. get rid of them. i dont like the taken over the house scenario by them.
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ts,,pls ask ur uncle 2 surf sbf lah.. he wil hv a better insight.. n all e best 2 him.. ..
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ts,,pls ask ur uncle 2 surf sbf lah.. he wil hv a better insight.. n all e best 2 him.. ..
ask him to read this thread,

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alot of PRC girls can change faces at a snap of the fingers,one can never be 100% certain of their 'love'.
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:19 AM
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Re: Domestic China Girl Problem

I see a danger sign. Your uncle is turning 55 and can take out his cpf excess money by then. She might be eyeing his retirement nest egg. 2 possible ways to get this sum of money.

1. Convince your uncle to give her money or let her control the finances.

2. Divorce your uncle and get at least 50% from the Women's Charter.

2nd option is very possible after she gets her PR. She can get money and she can continue to stay in Singapore. Better than the 2 year work permits that the chinese FLs buy to stay in Singapore. A lot of PRCs are here on 2 year work permit (claiming they are singers). However, the only microphone that they ever hold is our cocks.

Now isn't the time to get scared or angry. It's time to get even. If there is any future loan, include her name in. If there are joint accounts, make it online only (Stanchart's E-saver). If your uncle is worried, get someone else to manage his money. Say get your mom to invest his $$$ in your mom's name.
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Yo Bro Utopian355, Thanks for your thread, it's been a while since we have a genuine Matters of the Heart, Non Merry-Go-Round stories thread.

Nope, you're not being paranoid, there are a lot of cases that once PRC gals got their citizenship, they will ask for divorce and of PRC cheating and disappearing after sucking their hubby dry, so it is understandable that you are trying to be a good nephew to protect your uncle interest.

By now, she probably sized up that your other relatives are softies, so will not be able to do anything to her. Another possible threat would be her sister and niece "sometimes staying overnight" will eventually lead to long term, rental free stay and when anyone try to object, she will refute them by telling them: It's my house, why can’t I let my sister and niece stay here?

2 possible victims here: Your uncle and grandma - will she chase your grandma out of her house when the time is right?

Questions:
1) The 5room flat is under whose name?
2) When is he withdrawing his CPF?
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:41 AM
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U are right - do u think they are here to look for love?
No good ot handsome men in China that they must come to look for our ah pek as husband? These silly fuckers ask for it!
Like that say his uncle, not nice la. since HDB is your forte, any good advice to help TS's uncle? Don't ask him to throw old shoes..A bit too late now for that.Your time now to give back and do a good deed.
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Re: Domestic China Girl Problem

braddah, you need to call a family meeting. and family does not include the prc gals. seems like your uncle sacrificed his own potentienal and financed everyones education so his siblings out of respect for his sacrifices give in to his desires which he cannot control due to being KC by the china gals. i would talk to your uncle seperately but you must call a meeting with the others. leave your grandma out. too much drama for her at that age. you must tell it like it is and educated your family about the world of china gals, why they are in sg, what they do, cite statistics and articles and even this board. you said they are white collar office types. got diploma but no common sense. maybe can negotiate big deal for company but easily get fooled by street smart tramp from prc or shop vendor. they dont teach this in school and thier is not corporate training program. they respond better to things read, articles, facts, examples of what happened to other sg men kc by women. when you get consensus, and dont give up, all of you must confront your uncle.

the spaghetti straps at home maybe because she is f ing your uncle out of his sesnses and dropping his guard. he enjoy and kc ed due to her playing sex toy to get the house. do you want this bitch to kick your grandma out into the streets? i would think not. you dont hear about the story about sg guy throw his mother into the street for prc girl? fundametnal questions is what are they doing in sg? whats the girls purpose for come to sg?
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Re: Domestic China Girl Problem

Honestly, I think the age gap difference is a very clear sign of what is expected from the PRC. I have some good PRC decent friends who are very good in their profession (not WL/FL job) and I hope I'm not prejudice in this case. However, I would advise yr uncle to be more cautious of his finance management. Since yr uncle and PRC already ROM, too late to discuss withdrawal measures. I would advise yr uncle the following :
1) Never reveal total asset. Have one common bank acc (with less cash) and one secret acc kept away.
2) Ensure yr grandma house is under her name and has a will to safeguard who will benefit if she leaves. If yr uncle is the beneficiary, can state PRC will not benefit with regards to divorce. Or who will benefit if the house is sold.
3) Have yr uncle create a mutual understanding with PRC, that he is not obliged to take care of the sis, niece, however, may help out only out of goodwill. In this case, PRC cannot nag too much in future.
4) CPF. Make sure yr uncle do not include PRC as beneficiary. CPF do not follow will. CPF only follow who the nominees are.
5) If don't want to benefit PRC too much, have yr uncle write a will and state clearly his intention.
The above advice is about safeguarding yr uncle financial asset. However if the PRC is a genuine good lady, then the advice do not apply. Or if he is so KCed by PRC, then nothing to say. Good luck.
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A few other questions; your uncle got any kids? Apart from your grandmother, who else are in danger of the new PRC wife swallowing up his assets?

As mentioned by bro Oralcraz, it is important to ensure that the PRC woman is not listed as an owner of the HDB flat. Also, she should not be named as a benefiary in the CPF nomination.

Your uncle should also consider drafting a new will. Some people may not know this but marriage invalidates any wills signed prior to the marriage. So if he executed a will before marrying this PRC woman, it may be regarded as invalid so he better get a new one signed as soon as possible.

He should also consider setting up a sort of a trust fund where he should place all his other assets. The worst case scenario is when your uncle is old and senile, has money but the money is under the control of the PRC woman. In that situation, unless she truly loves him, chances are he will be living in his own faeces while she is out eating abalone. Having a trust created will ensure that his money is used to take care of himself in his twilight years.
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Dear TS

1)You should observe her from far before you can conclude her character and attitude

2)You may 1 2 tell your uncle not to give her "Too much allowance"
or else might spolit her.

3)Inform your uncle not to open any bank accounts with her name or joint account must be both signatories - No ATM card also.

其它的事以不变进万变。就是静观其变。
great advice bro. TS since yr uncle is the submissive (怕老婆) type its best to adopt some bottomline measures to safeguard his $$$ in case his PRC wife gradually becomes the CFO.
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Very sticky situation you're in dude.
I wud suggest a stake out on her sister 1st.
Find out what the fuck she does here other than sleep!
Then find out what this woman does here when your uncle isnt at home.
Best, find opportunity to install the trace software in her mobile when she showers so all SMS's u can also get a copy.......
When all evidence is complete, look for opportunity to stir...but stir slowly......
Wait for one day all the peers...aka uncles, unties etc etc around, create a diff scene totally diff from the main topic that you did here....
These people very particular about face value one, thus they'll all sure combine and start a big argument wif you.........
THIS IS WHEN YOU DROP THE BOMB OF ALL THE PROOF YOU'VE GATHERED!
Everyone there will have jaw drop syndrome...just look at your uncle and say:
Uncle, I love and care for you. I totally understand that you're lonely.......
Proof is here & you decide what you want to do.......
Love me Hate me its ok...I know I've done a VERY BIG PART FOR YOU & OUR FAMILY....
Then, just walk away...........
Whatever happens then it's not your call or prob already..........
At least at the end, you've already done merit.
Like I always say, if you see a man drowning, you stretch out your hand to save him....if he refuses to grab your hand, it's ok, he drowns and die, but you have already done merit in the book of heaven, its the intention.......
All the best....
Also, if you wanna organise a stake out, I am very sure many bros here will be willing to chip in...
For me, I only charge you one kopi...steady?
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Re: Domestic China Girl Problem

Since your uncles and aunties can obtained PR for her by going thru other "powderful" means so likewise they could verify her records. If the record reflect something bad, it will be a good piece of evident to warn your uncle.

Have a kopi session with your uncle and you may cook up a story that sound similar to his situation that could alert him. There a chinese says "Wu feng bu qi lang". Your senses might be right. It is never wrong to keep on guard. Once bitten twice shy.
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with so much at stake might be wise to hire a PI to scope her sister out and her out. or you can have a friend do it. either way its smart to check up on them. like BJ said, what is her sister doing in SG? Seems the majority of PRC come to SG to do other than normal things. Even college student hooking on the side but her sister is not even attending school from what you said. haver her followed for a month or so. I think all the PhDs in your family not street smart enough to even suspect anything.
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