Agreed, those who has already lots of senior clones with joined date one year ago wont be affected with the new rulings. Me poor bcos I didn't create enough clones when I joined SBF 3 years back. LOL ~~ Lesson learnt, so now can start create aikoN II all the way to aikoN XXXXIX, Everyday create one... 2 months settled. Wait for a year later then come out ~~!! LOL ~~

Not too sure, but think will see see look look for more understanding

I really feel that by allow ppl to zap others without putting down their ID is encouraging certain irresponsible characters to act in a brazen manner - similiar to gangsters, except they will not be caught or punished.

I posted one positive FR on one of my experiences, and without warning - I kena zap; furthermore this fellow continiously come in to zap me (for three days in a row) because I have challenge him to divulge his identity. I am not a clone of anyone, and I have used this forum much longer than my rep power implies... This forum was never like this before...

Doesn't the moderators protect legit users against the growing feeling of anarchy that seems to be prevailing? I did not offend anyone but yet I get zapped... I do not see how the system is working... Pls explain...

What's wrong with getting zapped? I get zapped regularly and I have the means of finding out who did it but I still don't bother to find out who did it. I just accept the fact that you can't please everyone.

As for your claim that you were zapped 3 days in a row, I checked your reputation database and found that your claim is absolutely untrue.

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When I first joint, I got zap for doing stupid things - that's fair, we all have to learn to follow rules... Its a matter of principle...

I read your other previous regarding revealing the identity of ppl zapping others -and I must say that I agree with your position now. However, to be balance, dont you think that innocent samsters should not be disadvantaged?

Did I abuse anyone or violate any of the rules set forth in the forum? Just because someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed does not give him the right to zap ppl, but a loophole in the rep system currently allows him that. For your information, I got zapped on 15th, 16th, 17th and 18th, losing a total of 5 points.

I am not asking for the points back - but you should as per your previous post "deal with the problem" after all I am coming to you for abitration before this sense of mafia-ism becomes cancerous in your forum.

If you click on the reputation points scale icon, you are presented with 2 choices.

1) Approval of a post
2) Disapproval of a post.

Approval adds points and disapproval deducts half the number of points.

"Right" and "wrong" does not come into the equation at all. There is no right or wrong.... only opinions and opinions can be as diverse as they come.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. ie you can't cry foul when people zap you because they got out of the wrong side of bed while happily accepting points which were awarded just because they happened to be in a good mood.

Take your post http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthr...71#post1536071 you were awarded points because someone else agreed that "Ronaldo sucks". What if 10 people who are Ronaldo fans zapped you 3 points each for insulting their favourite football player.. would you then call it "gangsterism"??? Gimme a break.

If you particpate in this forum, you'll have to learn to accept both bouquets and brickbats because that's how life works. You're never going to please everyone no matter what you say or do. If you can't, it would be best if you stop posting.

I checked your database again and you were deducted twice on the 16th and the 17th.. a total loss of 2 points only.

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I respectfully submit to you that there is a difference. When a person get zap (& rewarded) for taking a position on something (u pointed to my thread on Ronaldo) Yes, I got rewarded but I could also be punished - there were cases too (in fact happened today). Fair enough...

However, the situation I have brought to your attention is when a person got zapped because some fellow does not want me to post a FR because he has a ongoing problem with someone else. And him/clone continiously harrassed me... Obviously the goal is to stop me (or anyone to the matter of fact) from saying anything nice. If I had said something negative, I would probably have benefited from it. I would have played into their hands, if I had done so...

One has to take the context into discussion, and if you do and look at it objectively - these actions only discourages ppl from posting their geniune opinions and experiences (and it seems that you agree too), which is contary to the objective of your forum.

So these ppl continues to flourish because they are "protected", and conduct left unchecked. Whatever would happen to the quality of post here? If this is not gangsterism - what is? All I am asking is that you look into it.

If you are not interested in an intellectual discussion on this topic, then lets not. I thought you were because of the incredible effort put into the rep system and besides being (mildly) encouraged by some of your responses on this topic too - I posted my opinion.

I had grey cards in my User CP and I am not sure what it meant but I saw my points dropped, I remember distinctively I had 26 points before all these started, I got 5 points added and am still 26 points - so nett I lost 5 not 2 as you are telling me. Not that it's important - but maybe this is another bug in your system?

In life, if you have an opinion, you must be man enough to expound it despite the possibility of negative consequences. So what if you get zapped on a daily basis as long as achieve a net gain when it comes to the responses.

I have already biased the reputation system so that additions are double the subtractions and 99% of people who contribute positively will experience a steady increase in their reputation scores over time even though they may suffer setbacks along the way. You can't win them all.

The reputation system is automated. I can't be expected to micro manage each and every reputation point added or subtracted. I have various scripts running which highlight clone zapping and the use of vulgarities. I also audit the system every few days to see how things are going. However, to expect me to arbitrate each time there is a dispute as to the "validity" of points awarded or subtracted is simply not realistic. I'd need a full time arbitrator to do the job with an appeals board as back up in case the arbitrator's decision was challenged. Perhaps I should hire Yung Pang How to sit on the board since he is now retired and has lots of free time.

I have said this many times before and I'll say it again.. THERE ARE MORE UNEARNED POINTS AWARDED than there are unfair subtractions. If I took on the task of overseeing each and every reputation vote, I would end up deducting many more unfair additions compared to restoring unfair subtractions. Almost every single member would suffer a considerable reduction in their reputation scores.

The system is not perfect.... no system is in this world. However, it brings an additional level of interactivity into the forum which most people enjoy using. If they didn't, there wouldn't be more than 1000 votes cast on a daily basis.

The system is there for the fun of it. Points are worthless. They can't be redeemed for anything. Whether you are 1000 points or -999 makes absolutely no difference to your career, your relationships with your family and friends and your sexual prowess. Just treat the reputation points thing as a cyberspace computer game for that is exactly what it is.

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ok - if it's positioned this way, I am fine with it.

If it's positioned at way, I have no issue with it.

ya lor ya lor. if like tat my points now become negative.

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Although still not very clear after read from the first page, but I'm glad that the owner of this forum is very open. Cheers

please forgive if this if already somewhere but i could not find this info thru the search function. hope the seniors dont mind.

i know that now 1 power for 25 rep points. But is the power always according to rep points or years here? I've noticed that some people have much higher power for about the same rep points. How else does the power come otherwise if not from rep points or years joined?

Also (sorry i didnt know how to search for this too much results) what does power do?

It is based on the year you joined SBF..

For example, if you joined SBF in year 2001, you will have the power of 6..

And reputation point is based on whether people like your postings or not..

If you post very good and arousing FRs, many people will add to your point.


(Now, you cannot add or deduct points on postings older than 2 days, I guess Boss Sam is discouraging the practice of " you upped me and I will up you back".. )

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Upping of points based on latest posting.

Just Up :bigmannow

thanx bro, so i guess its just years and first power for 25 rep points like i thought?

so what does the power affect?