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Old 23-03-2008, 03:58 AM
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hi all bro here i am new in this forum ,just came back from ktv and have a bj with a gal without cap as my dick have some red mark isit nomal do i need to see a doctor?
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Infection risk and oral sex

Oral sex is a very common sexual practice in both heterosexual and homosexual couples. It includes both oro-genital and oro-anal sex. Understandably, many men and women are concerned about the potential risks of contracting human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), the viral infection that can develop into acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS) and other infections from oral sex. In this article, we look at the medical evidence available and offer advice on how to reduce the risks.

Cunnilingus is oral contact with a woman's genitalia and one study reported that 73 per cent of men and 66 per cent of women had experienced it. The same study reported that 69 per cent of men and 64 per cent of women had experienced fellatio, oral contact with a man's genitalia. Both activities have become increasingly common in the last 50 years, at least in part because they are considered 'safer' than penetrative sexual intercourse. The existing evidence shows that oral sex is a lower risk activity than penetrative vaginal or anal intercourse. However, low risk is not the same as no risk, and a variety of infections, including HIV, can be transmitted in this way. Safer sexual practices include masturbation and the use of vibrators or other sex aids, provided that partners do not share them without adequate cleansing.

Infection risk

AIDS and human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) HIV is a virus that causes progressive damage to the body's immune system, eventually leading to the development of chronic infections or cancers, and death. In its later stages, the collection of disorders resulting from HIV infection is described as AIDS. It is well known that penetrative vaginal and, particularly, anal intercourse, carry a high risk for transmission of HIV. Virus particles are found in semen and, to a lesser extent, saliva. Factors that might increase the risk of transmission are:

# being the receptive partner (ie taking the penis into your mouth).
# poor oral hygiene: the presence of oral thrush, mouth ulcers or gum disease.
# ulcer(s) on the penis or blood in the semen.
# allowing ejaculation of semen into the mouth.
# failing to spit out or swallow semen (the chemical environment of the stomach and digestive system will rapidly inactivate HIV).

There have been several studies reporting transmission of HIV between gay men who exclusively practice fellatio, rather than penetrative intercourse. There has also been at least one report of female to female transmission. In heterosexual couples, there is a significantly greater risk of transmission of HIV from male to female, than from female to male, but this includes all sexual practices, not just oral sex. As few couples exclusively practice oral sex, it is difficult to get reliable evidence and quantify the risk from oral sex alone, but from our understanding of how the virus is transmitted, we believe that the receptive partner (i.e. the one taking the penis into the mouth) is most at risk. Taking semen into the mouth, particularly with poor oral hygiene, further increases the risk for the receptive partner, although there are reports of HIV transmission as a result of fellatio without ejaculation.

Bacterial infections of the digestive system
There is evidence that the organisms Salmonella, Shigella and Campylobacter can all be transmitted by oro-anal contact. These can all cause severe abdominal pain and, sometimes, diarrhoea. Infections with Salmonella and Shigella can occasionally prove fatal.

Chlamydia
Chlamydia trachomatis infection may cause urethritis in men (pain and discharge from the urethra - the outlet from the bladder) or, in women, pelvic infection and fertility problems. In women Chlamydia quite frequently causes no symptoms. The organism has been isolated from the throats of both men and women. There is an association between fellatio and chlamydia infection, suggesting that at least male to female transmission is possible.

Gonorrhoea
Gonorrhoea is a sexually transmitted disease caused by the bacterium, Neisseria gonorrhoea. It usually causes a urethral (penile) discharge and discomfort on passing urine in men, and vaginal discharge and pelvic pain in women. It can be present without producing any symptoms at all, particularly in women, where up to 70 per cent may have no symptoms of infection. It is normally transmitted by vaginal or anal intercourse, but can also be transmitted through oral sex. It can cause gonococcal pharyngitis (throat infection). This is frequently without symptoms and only about 15 per cent of those affected will have a sore throat. Gonorrhoea is highly infectious.

Hepatitis A
Hepatitis A is a common viral infection that can cause jaundice and abdominal pain. It is not usually serious, although sufferers can feel very ill. The virus is found in faeces in high concentrations and will almost inevitably be present on the apparently clean anal skin of infected individuals. It can be transmitted by oro-anal contact. Several epidemic outbreaks have been reported among gay men, but heterosexual couples practising oro-anal contact are just as likely to be at risk.

Hepatitis B

Hepatitis B is a viral infection that is more common among people who have had a previous sexually transmitted disease, and among drug users. It can cause a very serious, potentially fatal, liver disease and chronic liver damage. It is most commonly transmitted by inoculation of infected blood, by sharing needles for injection, needlestick injuries and the medical use of infected blood products. Virus particles are found in semen, stool and saliva, as well as blood. There is clear evidence that it can be transmitted through vaginal and anal intercourse, but it is unproven whether it can be transmitted through oral sex. Certainly, there is a theoretical risk of transmission.

Hepatitis C

Hepatitis C is a viral infection transmitted in a similar way to hepatitis B, and so usually affects drug users. Some people with hepatitis C infection were infected with blood products, such as transfusions, prior to adequate screening procedures in the 1980s. There is limited evidence that hepatitis C may be transmissible through receptive oro-genital contact.

Herpes simplex virus (HSV)
HSV infection is the commonest cause of genital ulceration. In the past, it was almost exclusively caused by Herpesvirus hominis type 2, but in recent years it is increasingly caused by the type 1 virus, which was more usually associated with labial (lip) herpes or cold sores. Genital herpes is characterised by recurrent bouts of vesicles (small blisters), either on the penis or vulva, or other parts of the female genital tract. These rapidly break down to form small, painful ulcers. The first episode is usually associated with an acute feverish illness, which may be quite severe. It frequently recurs, although recurrent bouts are usually associated with a milder illness. HSV can also cause pharyngitis, an inflammation of the throat with similar ulcer formation. HSV is highly infectious and usually sexually transmitted. It is certainly transmitted by penetrative intercourse but there are several reports of transmission through oral sex. Virus particles are shed profusely from ulcers, either oral (including cold sores) or genital, and infection is far more likely when these are present. Transmission is unlikely, but not impossible, in the absence of ulcers.

Human papillomavirus (HPV)

HPV infection leads to the development of genital warts in both men and women, and is almost certainly sexually transmitted. Warts are usually fairly obvious on men (present on the penis), but may be more difficult to diagnose in women, as they may be restricted to the cervix (neck of the womb) and vagina. They can also develop around the anus, particularly if anal intercourse or oro-anal sex is practised, and, rarely, in the mouth and throat. HPV infection is important to identify and treat, as it can lead to the development of cancer of the cervix, mouth, penis and anus.

HPV virus is shed from the surface of warts and any form of direct physical contact may result in transmission. Although there is no definite evidence that HPV is transmitted through oral sex, it is highly likely that this can occur.

Molluscum contagiosum

Molluscum contagiosum is a common, infectious viral disease affecting the skin. It appears as multiple, small, dome-shaped blebs, often with a central plug. A curd-like discharge can be squeezed from them. The vast majority of molluscum lesions are transmitted in ordinary contact  they are common in children for example. There is limited evidence that it may be transmissible through receptive oro-genital contact.

Syphilis

There is a risk of transmission of syphilis by oro-genital sex, although it is difficult to quantify. Certainly, men and women may develop syphilitic mouth ulcers, or chancres, which shed the bacterium that causes syphilis, Treponema pallidum.

Thrush

Thrush is caused by a yeast, Candida albicans. Many people, perhaps up to 50 per cent of the population, carry Candida in their mouth or on the skin without it causing any symptoms. However, it can also cause infection and inflammation of the mouth, vulva, vagina, head of the penis and foreskin, usually with a cottage cheese-like white discharge present. Injury to the skin or mucous membranes, contraceptive pill use and diabetes are all predisposing factors. There is limited evidence that Candida can be transmitted by oral sex.

Worms
Threadworms, and probably other worms, can be transmitted by oro-anal contact or by fellatio after anal intercourse.
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Re: bj in ktv without cap

having blowjob without cap means you are taking the risk in contracting several STIs. don't know what are the red mark, or whether its an STI or not, only a doctor will be able to advice you.
play safely in future, put on a condom before action.
if you always cheong and have sex, you may want to consider getting regular hiv test
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yeah bro, big head must always rule over small head to be safe.
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Thanks sammyboyfor for sharing.
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So that means bj is more safer.
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So that means bj is more safer.
BJ is safer than vaginal or anal sex. But "safer" does not equal to "safe". Chances are lower means that you can still kenna. So, as long as their are body fluids involved ( blood, semen, vaginal fluids, even saliva ), use a condom.

Remember : Wrap your stump before you hump.

Even the most shiok fuck is not worth the nerve wrecking wait for 3 months to get your HIV test results. 20 mins of shiok is not worth 3 months of agony, and even worse, a shortened lifetime of regret and pain if you are infected.
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But still alot of bros doing bbbj. Hmm maybe they are ready for the risk in exchange for the shiokness (slurping sound etc)
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I suppose bbbj unlikley to be fatal so people are willing to take the risk
Unlike Raw which can be fatal if kena the worse std of them all
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hi all bro here i am new in this forum ,just came back from ktv and have a bj with a gal without cap as my dick have some red mark isit nomal do i need to see a doctor?
In KTV having bj without cap is not advisable. You wouldn't know, but I am sure she does it with other guys in other room so the risk is high. If your red mark doesn't goes off and you feel uncomfortable with your dick is better to consult a Doctor.

Thanks Boss Sam for the Article posted and Bro. AfA_hmor's advise, I have been reading your messages on and off.
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I suppose bbbj unlikley to be fatal so people are willing to take the risk
Unlike Raw which can be fatal if kena the worse std of them all
BBBJ is "unlikely" to be fatal, but the risk is definitely there and is NOT insignificant. It's the false sense of security that is scary.

She could have sores or ulcers in her mouth, or she could have bleeding gums, or accidentally bit her tongue, or she could still have semen of the guy she blew 10 minutes ago in her mouth. The urethra opening or any small nick on your dick is an entry point. If I told you to stick your dick into a swirling cup of possibly diseased blood and semen, would you do it ?

BBBJ is shiok, but I would never ask a girl who blows guys for a living to blow me without protection. How many thousands of potentially diseased dicks have been in her mouth already ? As always, protect ur dick if there is any fluids involved, even if its just saliva. Coz sometimes, saliva may contain blood and other infected fluids.
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does it feel good on bbbj ?
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Re: bj in ktv without cap

tis thread reminds me of HOC @ Great Eastern Hotel(Windsor hotel now)
a lot of the minahs give raw bj in those fav/wild days @HOC.
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it is better to be safe than sorry.
shiok but are taking a risk.
always practice safety else if unlucky gets those diseases,then it will be too late for regret.
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