My Observations on KC in KTV

[justl00king]

Originally Posted by teteku

we want to be KCed but could not handle the truth when the games stop.
Bros is a game and boils down to who is better at it.

I too have been out with FL for movies, dinners etc when time permits. Especially so for overnighters, a nice dinner followed by a stroll will really bring out the mood.

It's rather fun as chemistry builds and of course, will result with better sex in bed. Sometimes the FL will also reject clients as she prefer to spend time with you. You are then sort of given priority over other clients.

But please always remind oneself what these FL does for a living. We must always be the one in control and decide when the game should end. First sign of money request should be a good start to end it.

Have fun with them, but use your big head too.

[humtra]

Yes agreed, must always be in control and remind ourselves what's the WL or FL motive for being with you. Must remind yourself that they were with someone last night, with you tonight and with another tomorrow night.

No matter how long one has been in the game.. because someday, somewhere, someone better than us will turn up and clean us up proper..keke

[Greatking]

when i go these places, i would first be telling myself "hey, they don't talk bout feeling, don't be a fool!" to hypnotize myself. I understand that not all are lidat. But i prefer to think it this way so that i won't be ended up being bitten again.

[Genomes]

this info is helpful

[RUNWEST]

kenna KCed is all about oneself being 自作多情。。
if they have been working there for quite a while, the number of customer they come in contact everyday is more than the number of girls u have bonked to date..
what make you so special among the rest of the guys???
if you are the big fish who always spend, what will happen if a young, handsome big whale come by..

[soulja]

Originally Posted by teteku

Bro,
Some bros do think they are in love with the FLs, but I think more guys here know what they are getting into.
For better or worse, they are KCing the girls so that they will get better service/deal from the FLs?
If the Fls are SG 200 dollars per shot and SG 600 dollars overnight, by KCing her like taking her out on the town, you would get your an overnight bonk (at least 3 shots) let say dinner, window shopping, a movie and a little gift; for SG 300 dollars is a steal.
Maybe, but have you consider your cost in time and money spent on the activities?
We men normally see the the $ sign 600 compare to 300 bucks, never consider the other expenses.
For the FLs is quite simple cash plus whatever she would have spent if she would have gone out on her own.
You are doing her a favor by being her driver.
If she had a customer, which would she choose?? the $600 bucks cash or $300 cash and have to spent time with you??
Looking at it objectively, we are the best deal possible including the GFE feeling, but dont be fool to think we are getting that for free, maybe at a better rate (for the better KC player) but not for free.
From her side she is looking to max her income.
I had a few PRC MMs that I normally go out with, and they always asked If I mind if they have to rush off to meet a client?
My answer is NO, it is your job.
I had a few great KC in the past, as long as we both know what we are willing to offer and to get out of it.
And yes I was also a victim of the KC games which I was also a part of the problem. Men want to Kc the MMs but do not want to be KCed...
I stand corrected, we want to be KCed but could not handle the truth when the games stop.
Bros is a game and boils down to who is better at it.

Cheers.

well said bro!

We really wan to try our skill in KC but when we KC-ed, we cant hndle it

[Summersnowz]

This thread really enlightened many bros here whom may be lost in this practical scene. We just need to have a clear mind and in control of the situation.

[Triceratops]

Originally Posted by justl00king

Guys will always find ways to get the pussy.

Gals will always find ways to get the wallet.

As in :
Some guys will die for pussy
&
Alot of girls will lie for munnie

[zelc]

Thanks TS for sharing your observations, like what most brother say, woman go for money in our wallet while we chase after pussies.

Well i will said those working in KTV comes with individual "sad" stories, be it genuine or not. They has only like 1 ~ 6 months to earn back the money they paid to those middle man ( agents ), visa, housing and daily needs.

Quite a challenge for them though to work in a foreign land.

I choose to pay them good money if their service is good (during KTV visits) and will proceed to ask for their number, bring them out for dinner, walk along beaches etc. They know we treat them like part time gf or maybe mistress but do reward them well also.

Bottomline is, don't be KC by them, KC little bit will do...severe KC leads to disastrous ending. My best buddy kena and we lost him forever...

Hope my sharing helps.

Cheers, enjoy and make merry!!

[drunken]

Friend forward me this. not sure if how true?

http://www.echinacities.com/china-me...de-part-2.html

[tankoo]

Originally Posted by Big B

Hi everyone,

these are my humble contributions to this forum. Fore-warned is Fore-armed. It is my fervent hope that fellow bros will find the following useful and prepare accordingly. It also serves as a form of therapy for me as well when I allow my thoughts out.

Yes, I am a victim - something that I thought would never happen after being a regular in the KTV scene for nigh on 5 years.

Observation 1
If you are new or relatively new to the cheonging KTV scene, you cannot be immune to KC. If you have not been KCed, it is only because you have not met a female specimen that appeals to all your senses (physical + mental).

Observation 2
For those who get KCed, only a VERY small percentage "wins" and get what they want out of the relationship. Most "believe" they are in control when they are not. They start making excuses for the girl and start living in their own fantasy environment. For those who have been through this, you know how potent and real this "fantasy" can be to the dreamer.

Observation 3
When the dreamer awakens into a nightmare, several things happen:
1) Moments of confusion or loss or sadness or feelings of lao kui or guilt (or any combination thereof).
2) A recovery period. It is a sad fact of life that some brothers never fully recover. Even those that do recover bear scars.

Observation 4
To successfully recover, a brother can choose several approaches. Below lists several stances that I have seen:

Stance 1:
Become cold and numb. Believe nothing and doubt everything a WL says. Be merciless in your pursuit of fun and don't let the tears fool you. I am in the driver's seat (i.e. my happiness is most important even if someone else gets emotionally "hurt").

Stance 2:
Revenge. Indulge in sordid commercial sex and treat whores as a lower form of life. I will say anything and use tricks to get that cunt. Taste some of my pain whore!

Stance 3:
Enough. The realm of adult entertainment is not something I am equipped to handle. I will not return to it if I can help it.

Stance 4:
Zombie. Go through the motion of "enjoying" with another girl(s). When you pretend to be having fun, maybe you might even have some fun by accident.

As everyone can no doubt see, each stance carries its own pros and cons. What is consistent however, is that the victim is "changed" by the KC experience. Became a veteran, so to speak...

Before you succumb to KC, do ask yourself the following questions:
1) Would any "nice" lady in their right minds choose to love a man that indulges in commercial adult entertainment?
2) If you had no money, would they still want you?
3) Even if they do, do you foresee a long term happy ending?

Finally, I do agree there are a few "good" ladies out there and yes, some of them truly have sad stories to share if you hear them. No one in their right minds would ever willingly choose such a profession.

The lady that I believed I loved was kind enough to share how disgusted she is to see scum like us behaving like animals in a KTV room. She herself has become scarred by the experience and no longer believes in the concept of "good" men. She absolutely cannot wait to get out of Singapore for good once her visa expires and never return. On a side note, this lady fits my definition of good because she has never slept or intend to sleep with any man in Singapore.

Hope the above balances the humour of those who read my rumblings.

Bro Big B

this is like a KTV KC science........

[hotstuffm8]

The first time I went KTV was cos of a bro getting married. Bachelor's party. After about 15mins there, I was like wtf so ex? Rub rub here, touch touch there suddenly poorer by a hundred bucks? Cmon man, that kinda $$$ can engage full service somewhere else liao. And the KTV ladies also not say more chio than my favorite FLs, what a fucking rip-off! Suffice to say, that was the first and last time I went to KTV lol

If you're talking about KC from WLs, I have this to share: KC is for better services the next round. Simple as that. WLs are just here to make a living - gotta respect this fact. Emotional investment from either party is just gonna create alot of unnecessary drama and heartbreak eventually, unless both are willing to work pretty damn hard to overcome the huge rifts in lifestyles and outlooks. It can happen, just not very likely.

So to bros out there on the verge of getting KCed, please please please think carefully. Make sure you protect your interests, and that you are prepared for the worst case scenario.

Good luck and have fun bros!

[tankoo]

Originally Posted by hotstuffm8

The first time I went KTV was cos of a bro getting married. Bachelor's party. After about 15mins there, I was like wtf so ex? Rub rub here, touch touch there suddenly poorer by a hundred bucks? Cmon man, that kinda $$$ can engage full service somewhere else liao. And the KTV ladies also not say more chio than my favorite FLs, what a fucking rip-off! Suffice to say, that was the first and last time I went to KTV lol

If you're talking about KC from WLs, I have this to share: KC is for better services the next round. Simple as that. WLs are just here to make a living - gotta respect this fact. Emotional investment from either party is just gonna create alot of unnecessary drama and heartbreak eventually, unless both are willing to work pretty damn hard to overcome the huge rifts in lifestyles and outlooks. It can happen, just not very likely.

So to bros out there on the verge of getting KCed, please please please think carefully. Make sure you protect your interests, and that you are prepared for the worst case scenario.

Good luck and have fun bros!

valid point......not easy indeed

[funhappy]

I wish I read this long time back. I just broke with mine after slightly 1 year together. Got hooked becos she's the only Malaysian at Pearl Centre previously, ya, thot we are in love, supported her financially and then realised she got husband back in JB, what the fuck!

[ramon]

I like to be KCed by KTV girls! I find it intriguing on the ways they try to chop you as their ATM.