Low & Mid Income Sillypore Bros, SG or Foreign Gf/Wife?

[mackewell]

Originally Posted by DegenerationX

Agree with you. Just to show a post from another similar thread.

Good to see that the TS is moving on wif his life positively and not flaming sg girls for that. Kudos to him. However, i still cant understand, in the mind of sg girls, why is it that a bag you buy for her at Ang mo kio hub is not comparable to the same range(almost same type) of bags you can buy from her at orchard ion?


And why must die die kao bei kao bu and show ur attitude so that i can bring you go eat the top notch sushi bars when sushi tei or sakae sushi provide decent jap food? I cant understand why so narrowminded when it comes to sg girls? is prestige and status so important in the modern sg? cant figure out man... hope someone enlighten me lol..

[SushiJiro]

Originally Posted by wayne23416

To my Dearest Mackewell Bro,

I've dated ladies who r hot...hot to the point where she is taller than me by 1 head (not dickhead) and curvier than the average singaporean girl...she stays in a really upmarket area that all of us dream of staying...and when we go out, guys stare at her and at me and watch in amazement...u know when u see a hot girl with an ugly guy? yea...that feeling...

Bro, you are an inspiration. Can you share some tips on how to improve one's charisma and personality. Because I share the same sentiments as bro TS to some extents.

[dustzee]

Originally Posted by Kenny87

but he is sincere. he loves me, and that makes me want to be a better person because of him.. i have learned many life lessons thru this man. and everyday when i see him, all i want to do, is to please him and make him happy.

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This is heart warming man!

[dustzee]

Originally Posted by mackewell

Good to see that the TS is moving on wif his life positively and not flaming sg girls for that. Kudos to him. However, i still cant understand, in the mind of sg girls, why is it that a bag you buy for her at Ang mo kio hub is not comparable to the same range(almost same type) of bags you can buy from her at orchard ion?


And why must die die kao bei kao bu and show ur attitude so that i can bring you go eat the top notch sushi bars when sushi tei or sakae sushi provide decent jap food? I cant understand why so narrowminded when it comes to sg girls? is prestige and status so important in the modern sg? cant figure out man... hope someone enlighten me lol..

Waaaaa bro. Really you meet these type of girls often? I think i cannot stand this type. But luckily I never met any, even though I heard a lot about them.

[dustzee]

I think the real discussion here isn't about SG VS Other countries. I think the real issue is, can we keep up with a relationship having different social statuses.

With the general female population being more educated than the male population, this will be a problem for both guys and girls. Guys usually want to assume the provider role. My view is this is getting increasingly difficult.

I once dated a rich girl. My family is not too rich nor poor. But the girl's family should be in the top 10% of Singapore.

So at first, it didn't matter. We enjoyed our times together, we flew kites, shared a candy (don't ask how), hide under staircases to cuddle.

And then after a while, things changed. I was in the final year of uni, and she was 1 year my junior. I found she was the one ferrying us around cos her family bought her a car. She wanted to go to her usual hang out places (and since those places were too expensive for me, I usually declined). The gifts we exchanged don't really match in dollar value.

Before she even made any noise about it, I was feeling extremely lousy about myself. Never in my life had I felt I was such a loser. And at that point of my life, she influenced me much more than I influenced her. So my mentality was "how can I keep up with my finances so I can match hers".

that problem didn't last for long. About 1.5 years into the relationship, she finally made the move. "Let's break up."

It was expected. But what didn't help, was she suddenly displayed the snobbish attitude. "I need someone who is working towards financial stability"

That's what a girl said to a final year undergrad, who was giving tuition to pay his school fees. It didn't matter that he was going to graduate and work on his career. He was deemed "Not being able to be successful" before he could even make an attempt.

Now, I know it is not fair to project this on all SG girls. In fact, it isn't about SG or not. It's about cultural differences (within our own society). Even if we look elsewhere and we date a girl of higher status, the same thing is likely to happen.

[HCKing]

Originally Posted by dustzee

Waaaaa bro. Really you meet these type of girls often? I think i cannot stand this type. But luckily I never met any, even though I heard a lot about them.

there r actually quite alot of them out there, but then again there r also many average joes going steady with these girls. it's a matter of knowing hw to suit their wants and demands. might not be materially but emotionally. afterall, like what sis kenny87 said, girls r emotional creatures.

[mackewell]

Originally Posted by HCKing

there r actually quite alot of them out there, but then again there r also many average joes going steady with these girls. it's a matter of knowing hw to suit their wants and demands. might not be materially but emotionally. afterall, like what sis kenny87 said, girls r emotional creatures.

I think it takes two hands to clap in ani r/s. to be fair, from a guy pov, u shld roughly knoe after knowing her very closely b4 u go steady wif her wad the chick u are courting wants in the r/s(be it material or emotional). So we guys shld not moan and bitch when the r/s turns sour cuz u cant give and take and accomodate in the r/s.

On the other hand, sg girls also cannot be too greedy and expect we guys to be like angmoh and be so much of a giver and be so casual and liberal wf r/s. of cos we guy cannot be cheapskate too la lol...

[HCKing]

Originally Posted by mackewell

I think it takes two hands to clap in ani r/s. to be fair, from a guy pov, u shld roughly knoe after knowing her very closely b4 u go steady wif her wad the chick u are courting wants in the r/s(be it material or emotional). So we guys shld not moan and bitch when the r/s turns sour cuz u cant give and take and accomodate in the r/s.

On the other hand, sg girls also cannot be too greedy and expect we guys to be like angmoh and be so much of a giver and be so casual and liberal wf r/s. of cos we guy cannot be cheapskate too la lol...

logically we can think this way. but in reality most guys will think with their small heads when they go after their maidens so all their flaws and cons can be conveniently overlooked and bochup. some can even justify themselves that they will make their girls change for the better with their love.

ultimately, we just want to make them happy and win their hearts. dun believe u can try date a chiobu nw and observe ur own reactions. her character maybe sucky but if the attraction is damn power u will still see her as yr angel frm heaven. which is y love is blind. and the more the girls are used to being pampered the easier for them to be demanding and choosy since thats the way they believe a good boyfriend should behave - always trying their best to please.

anyway i have known girls hanging on with guys who are less successful than them and also girls giving up their bf for greener pasture. alot of times such things depend on fate one lah so dun be despair if u cant find a suitable girlfriend, just keep trying. u will nvr knw when yr fate will come one day unless u try.

[mackewell]

Originally Posted by HCKing

logically we can think this way. but in reality most guys will think with their small heads when they go after their maidens so all their flaws and cons can be conveniently overlooked and bochup. some can even justify themselves that they will make their girls change for the better with their love.

ultimately, we just want to make them happy and win their hearts. dun believe u can try date a chiobu nw and observe ur own reactions. her character maybe sucky but if the attraction is damn power u will still see her as yr angel frm heaven. which is y love is blind. and the more the girls are used to being pampered the easier for them to be demanding and choosy since thats the way they believe a good boyfriend should behave - always trying their best to please.

anyway i have known girls hanging on with guys who are less successful than them and also girls giving up their bf for greener pasture. alot of times such things depend on fate one lah so dun be despair if u cant find a suitable girlfriend, just keep trying. u will nvr knw when yr fate will come one day unless u try.

True but de prob is guys like pursue their so called love after being attracted by the girls' external which is looks and figure and her make up and so on. This kind of love could prove to be superficial.

Call me crazy , i am more than happy to bonk a hot babe but not waste time further on her unless she has substance. Most of the time, it is not de case coz this hotties have way betta choices and they will play to hard and not succumb to de idea of having a simple yet less materialistic r/s. if she hot , its a bonus. If not, i am way more happy to find one acceptable or slightly betta one to haf a simple r/s den to dream big and lose everything so quickly...

[JuzNiceM]

Bro TS,

I think when you started to write this thread. In your mind, you already have a mindset on how typically women will behave. It's not totally wrong but it seems way too one sided.


i) There is no written rule or survey concluding that women who received higher education is so much smarter than men who didn't. Streetwise mindset gets a person further than educated mindset.


ii) There is no written rule that those born in well-to-do families will not marry someone from not-so well-to-do families. You can bonk or even make a rich girl preggy as long as you know how to pick her up.

She is after all, a human with emotion and needs, not some face with a tag - I'm from a rich family and I'm only touchable with 10k income and above.

Get it to your head, you are a man .. period.


iii) As pointed by some bros here, there are women who're way above their men in everything but also stride hard to help their men achieve more in life.
Whether they're stupid or what that their men still F around outside is basically us men problem, nothing to do with them.


iv) There are also no strong evidence that neighbouring Countries chai are less demanding. B*llshit, if you married a women, you will get typically a women's mindset. No 2 ways about it. (It also shows how 'much' you understand women ..... basially zero)


v) Stop feeling sorry for yourself that you belong to the low-income families. I can understand why you feel you can't get a serious relationship out of Sg girls when all you do is to grumble your life how sucks .. of course who the hack would wana spend thier lives with someone so negative?

Sorry lor, even neightbouring countries women have the rights to choose someone who can be poor (low-income) but at least got a positive mindset to improve from where he is. So don't think you can sure marry and be happy with a Tomyam or a Viet women. You sucks, they still give you hell. And they have this rights because they will suffer for the rest of their miserable lives married to people like your mindset.

Pal, you're spending to much time writing journals with no substances, of course you are still struck here. SBF is well-surfed by men/ women/ diff races/ diff countries/ rich/ poor. Don't bluff us, we're not stupid,

I'm surprised nobody had yet to zap you jialat jialat. It's a disgrace to us men that your mindset so shallow.

Be a man for this time! ZZZzzzzzzzzzz ........

[mackewell]

Originally Posted by JuzNiceM

Bro TS,

I think when you started to write this thread. In your mind, you already have a mindset on how typically women will behave. It's not totally wrong but it seems way too one sided.


i) There is no written rule or survey concluding that women who received higher education is so much smarter than men who didn't. Streetwise mindset gets a person further than educated mindset.


ii) There is no written rule that those born in well-to-do families will not marry someone from not-so well-to-do families. You can bonk or even make a rich girl preggy as long as you know how to pick her up.

She is after all, a human with emotion and needs, not some face with a tag - I'm from a rich family and I'm only touchable with 10k income and above.

Get it to your head, you are a man .. period.


iii) As pointed by some bros here, there are women who're way above their men in everything but also stride hard to help their men achieve more in life.
Whether they're stupid or what that their men still F around outside is basically us men problem, nothing to do with them.


iv) There are also no strong evidence that neighbouring Countries chai are less demanding. B*llshit, if you married a women, you will get typically a women's mindset. No 2 ways about it. (It also shows how 'much' you understand women ..... basially zero)


v) Stop feeling sorry for yourself that you belong to the low-income families. I can understand why you feel you can't get a serious relationship out of Sg girls when all you do is to grumble your life how sucks .. of course who the hack would wana spend thier lives with someone so negative?

Sorry lor, even neightbouring countries women have the rights to choose someone who can be poor (low-income) but at least got a positive mindset to improve from where he is. So don't think you can sure marry and be happy with a Tomyam or a Viet women. You sucks, they still give you hell. And they have this rights because they will suffer for the rest of their miserable lives married to people like your mindset.

Pal, you're spending to much time writing journals with no substances, of course you are still struck here. SBF is well-surfed by men/ women/ diff races/ diff countries/ rich/ poor. Don't bluff us, we're not stupid,

I'm surprised nobody had yet to zap you jialat jialat. It's a disgrace to us men that your mindset so shallow.

Be a man for this time! ZZZzzzzzzzzzz ........

Hey bro,

1) before you continue ranting on me for no reason further, go back and read my thread properly. No way did i bitch or moan and grumble about my sad life. I am not interested to give PR comments in this thread as i wanna hear good solid comments from other bros, therefore it sounds harsh at times, i apologise for that bro.

2) Most of the thing i say is based on my personal observation, is it wrong to say things based on what i see? bro , you may be earning tons of money and have a good family in sg, but tt does not mean all of us are like you. Why do i feel sorry if i am poor? you think i writing novel? poor also human being what, are you looking down on poor ppl? lol... rich or poor sometimes is not we choose leh, but of course i am more than happy to drop my ego and say i am poor..

3) Read my past comments, i have never super confidently said that foreign gf or spouse is the way to go. However , i prefer them more, its true. But why the hell i want to create this thread if i alreadi knoe foreign chicks are better? i doing this to blast local girls? am i too free(maybe i am lah lol)

u really got imagination sia, I am not a successful fella but like i said, i do know mutual respect but still commenting honestly. I am not a hater leh lol... Btw, if i see a local girl so nice to me in sillypore, u think i wont accept? am i so heartless? i dont think so leh, i will say yes to her towards a r/s.

Bro, lastly, i am not interested to wage war wif u, no point also. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but of course comment wif mutual respect in this forum.

I strongly believe i did that. Comments may be sort of harsh at times but its true tts why it is hard to hear at times.

Seriously, is it time for me to shut my mouth as what i am saying is all bullshites? I am low in confidence but i am not a loser, i am already facing the fact now by putting more focus on my career and to improve myself in this instance(doing this makes me a man, period). Do you know me well in person? no you dont.

You knoe what, maybe what i have been saying is wrong, maybe i am looked down upon coz i am not successful and i have no right to say so much. If tts the case, i shall leave the floor for u bros to speak your mind, cheers mates .

[JuzNiceM]

Hi Bro TS,


I've laid my thoughts, you will deicde if it benefits you or not.

If you think I am rich, then you're very wrong. I've never owe an iphone aso far because I can't afford to pay for it, serious. i makesift for what I can afford in life.

And talking about being poor in singapore, does it mean you can marry a even poorer neighbouring countrywomen so that you will feel better than you're not so poor after all?

Originally Posted by mackewell

3) Read my past comments, i have never super confidently said that foreign gf or spouse is the way to go. However , i prefer them more, its true. But why the hell i want to create this thread if i alreadi knoe foreign chicks are better? i doing this to blast local girls? am i too free(maybe i am lah lol)

u really got imagination sia, I am not a successful fella but like i said, i do know mutual respect but still commenting honestly. I am not a hater leh lol... Btw, if i see a local girl so nice to me in sillypore, u think i wont accept? am i so heartless? i dont think so leh, i will say yes to her towards a r/s.

I've already said, no girls hate you, they just feel your attitude towards yourself sucks. Trust me if you buck up and work towards your aim in life, they will see you differently.

I need not know you much as a person, everybody is keyboard hero behind this screen. You know yourself best and if you're really making effort to move on, this thread wouldn't even existed.

Nobody is looking down on you except yourself. And you've been stating that again and again since Post 1. And only you say that the only way to move on, get married is to get a even lower end life (which in your opinion is those tomyam or view women .. .and why do you think they are simple??? .. are you looking down on their mentality as well?).

And the reason you prefer them more is, you feel they won't look down on you. (That's what you're afraid of isn't it?) - then you're in for a big surprise .. lolxx

Seriously, what can we poeple say since you have this mindset. Who in this forum will agree that you deserve something better? And why would you post and hope no harsh comments when all you're interested is just to wank off your thoughts and you not keen to 'comment' much on mine?

Breed for breed, thoughts for thoughts. I won't be here in your thread for long, neither will others who given up on your mindset.

Trust me on that. good day pal.


PS : You can zap me, I got 58 pts, I have nothing from day one since i've registered but I'm not afraid to start all over again. This is called confidence my pal ...

[mackewell]

Originally Posted by JuzNiceM

Hi Bro TS,


I've laid my thoughts, you will deicde if it benefits you or not.

If you think I am rich, then you're very wrong. I've never owe an iphone aso far because I can't afford to pay for it, serious. i makesift for what I can afford in life.

And talking about being poor in singapore, does it mean you can marry a even poorer neighbouring countrywomen so that you will feel better than you're not so poor after all?



I've already said, no girls hate you, they just feel your attitude towards yourself sucks. Trust me if you buck up and work towards your aim in life, they will see you differently.

I need not know you much as a person, everybody is keyboard hero behind this screen. You know yourself best and if you're really making effort to move on, this thread wouldn't even existed.

Nobody is looking down on you except yourself. And you've been stating that again and again since Post 1. And only you say that the only way to move on, get married is to get a even lower end life (which in your opinion is those tomyam or view women .. .and why do you think they are simple??? .. are you looking down on their mentality as well?).

And the reason you prefer them more is, they won't look down on you. (That's what you're afraid of isn't it?)

Seriously, what can we poeple say since you have this mindset. Who in this forum will agree that you deserve something better? And why would you post and hope no harsh comments when all you're interested is just to wank off your thoughts and you not keen to 'comment' much on mine?

Breed for breed, thoughts for thoughts. I won't be here in your thread for long, neither will others who given up on your mindset.

Trust me on that. good day pal.


PS : You can zap me, I got 58 pts, I have nothing from day one since i've registered but I'm not afraid to start all over again. This is called confidence my pal ...

Bro, let me and you take a chill pill can?

LOl, i dig wad u saying, and i wont zap you? for what? dont serve any purpose.

Btw, i never look down on myself now lah, last time have lah. You are right, no point not being sure abt urself, theres still a long way for me to go in life.

MY apologies once again for mistaking you as a rich fella. You know what, i like to dream big but i dont want to. I just want to be realistic. I am not 21 or 22 years old where i can dream big and aim for the hottest sg chick or wad lol, i old liao...

U knoe wad , screw the look down crap lah, if the girl be it local or foreign wants to be wif u, shes wont think so much abt status and will try her best to convince her family members to accept you. Its true lah, if she wants it, why not? i am game for it.

However, the real reason why i am so against finding a nice sg girl is cuz i wanna stick to my plan not to retire in sg 20 years down the road. I dont really like sillypore lah(retirement wise). I just know that if i am open to sg girls, i may end up finding one nice one and settle here in sinkieland(bro, i knoe there is still the chance this will happen, i am not ruling it out but i wanna avoid it lol)... So i guess short term r/s and flings is the way to go in sg for me...

Of course , you are right, instead of moaning, we shld appreciate the fact we can get decent job in sg and save somemore. But silllypore just dont suit me for retirement lah lol, u get wad i mean? lol.....

[JuzNiceM]

ok pal,

no offence either.

retirement, if u dunt have close to 10 yrs savings of ur peak earning power, u probably wont b able to survive. n u have to spend again when u choose to give up life here n move on.

retirement if is some 20 yrs down the road. you shd b in ur late 30* or even 40* now.
do u have a firm plan to ensure this is realistic enuff to achieve?

retirement, if is to be spent ur last yrs away from ur friends, relatives, family. u wont b able to retire relaxfully either.

check n seek advice from the old heroes here. it sounds cool but not so simple like typing here at tip of ur fingers.

good luck anyway pal ....

[SammyNewbie]

JuzNiceM,

This is very sensitive, but I want to ask.

You say mackwell is poisoned, bitter and has a bad outlook of life.

Well, I'd like to ask who honestly wants to be unhappy, emotion or sad on purpose. I believe that if given a choice, everyone wants to be happy, confident and living life to their fullest.

Also, to your point on working towards something and doing something about their lives, I agree, but it takes alot of courage to make changes. And people have different levels of courage on different matters. I might be more confident in certain areas when I meet difficult challenges, and less in others.

People also take time to get out of these things, some shorter, some longer.

All I want to say is, don't be too harsh on other people because you made it out of a rut more quickly than others. We don't want them to end up in the morgue after taking the bitter pill you did.