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billgates
30-08-2009, 05:32 PM
LOL that's so funny. :p

Yesterday she said something which is quite funny. "Anh em lam cong an hinh su (刑事) di bat (抓) toi pham (罪犯) o VN, nhung em lai sin bi cong an bat" (My brother in VN works a policeman in charge of catching criminals, but I was caught by policemen here.)

jackbl
31-08-2009, 10:17 AM
Another way to look at this sentence could be "Brother (addressing u), I m working as police in VN catching criminals, but I come singapore get caught by police here". Therefore, sms can also be misleading :D :p ;)

The best is to clarify with the person thru conversation.

Yesterday she said something which is quite funny. "Anh em lam cong an hinh su (刑事) di bat (抓) toi pham (罪犯) o VN, nhung em lai sin bi cong an bat" (My brother in VN works a policeman in charge of catching criminals, but I was caught by policemen here.)

Hurricane88
31-08-2009, 01:11 PM
Well, I don't know whether my girl told me the truth or not. I also doubted how can she be arrested like that? Maybe she was soliciting a customer at that time, and that customer happened to be a plaincloth cop. This is just my theory, but I didn't try to dig out the truth.

Can tell your gal was caught in the act...otherwise police will not check her phone for proofs...and send her back immediately...also she had lied on her accomodation (visitor immigration card) and it's serious enough to warrant immediate deportation...:)

VietnamLover
31-08-2009, 02:01 PM
jackbl, did you receive any call / sms from Huong? Today, I got a missed call but don't know who the person is. Not sure if it's from Huong. Her number is +84xxxxxx0886.

jackbl
31-08-2009, 02:39 PM
Yes, thats the number of hers in VN.
jackbl, did you receive any call / sms from Huong? Today, I got a missed call but don't know who the person is. Not sure if it's from Huong. Her number is +84xxxxxx0886.

VietnamLover
31-08-2009, 03:08 PM
Hurricane88, already returned favour to you. Thanks.

CuteBuns
31-08-2009, 03:43 PM
I will wait for you and beside next to you will be very happy.

Thanks!! :D

jackbl
01-09-2009, 02:00 AM
City’s five-star hotels offer half-price rates
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A two-month promotion, which offers Vietnamese guests half price room rates for the first night at some five-star hotels in Ho Chi Minh City, will run from the beginning of September, the city’s Department of Culture, Sports and Tourism announced August 28.

The six five-star hotels taking part in the promotion include the Windsor, Majestic, Rex, Renaissance Riverside, Caravelle and Sheraton.

According to Tao Van Nghe, chairman of HCMC Hotels Association, the hotels will present their discounts based on their operations and room capacity during the promotional period.

Visitors are required to book rooms seven days in advance.

The campaign, part of the city’s plan to increase tourism, is hoped to give Vietnamese visitors a chance to experience high quality tourism services.

By My Hanh – Translated by Thuy Doan

Hurricane88
01-09-2009, 11:58 AM
Hurricane88, already returned favour to you. Thanks.

Thank you very much for your points...:)

jackbl
01-09-2009, 03:29 PM
Got a call from a gal who dun know much english. Dun know how to go to the correct gate for boarding. On the ticket is C17 but she went to D.... Spoke to the staff in Changi Airport, and they volunteer to lead the gal from D to C17... So sporean still quite helpful and friendly :D :p ;)

So if YOUR GAL is 1st timer to sgp and cant speak much english, it would be much appreciated (from her) that u can send her or direct her the correct route, else if missed the flight then its very pitiful :(

lovesprout
01-09-2009, 03:35 PM
Got a call from a gal who dun know much english. Dun know how to go to the correct gate for boarding. On the ticket is C17 but she went to D.... Spoke to the staff in Changi Airport, and they volunteer to lead the gal from D to C17... So sporean still quite helpful and friendly :D :p ;)

So if YOUR GAL is 1st timer to sgp and cant speak much english, it would be much appreciated (from her) that u can send her or direct her the correct route, else if missed the flight then its very pitiful :(

You are like the guardian angels for the VN babes now. My hats off to you. But you are right, when Hanh is going back, she sent me this message:

"E bi lac duong gio moi den noi so qua" (I lost my way, and now I just arrived this place, so scary"

Well, she arrived 30 mins before her flight took off and the time was barely enough for her to check in.

lovesprout
01-09-2009, 03:36 PM
Another way to look at this sentence could be "Brother (addressing u), I m working as police in VN catching criminals, but I come singapore get caught by police here". Therefore, sms can also be misleading :D :p ;)

The best is to clarify with the person thru conversation.

I already confirmed it is her brother who works as cong an in VN. If she is the cong an, then it will be too funny.

jackbl
01-09-2009, 03:48 PM
I have told myself, since i have learnt their language, if they need my help, i will try. I didnt go to great extend but a few phone calls I still can manage.(But not to those that say "Today I no customer, can give me lucky?" For this, I dun even give $1)

From your translation, I can tell that you are very good in viet now. Please continue to give assistance to this thread here :D :cool:

You are like the guardian angels for the VN babes now. My hats off to you. But you are right, when Hanh is going back, she sent me this message:

"E bi lac duong gio moi den noi so qua" (I lost my way, and now I just arrived this place, so scary"

lovesprout
01-09-2009, 07:38 PM
I have told myself, since i have learnt their language, if they need my help, i will try. I didnt go to great extend but a few phone calls I still can manage.(But not to those that say "Today I no customer, can give me lucky?" For this, I dun even give $1)

From your translation, I can tell that you are very good in viet now. Please continue to give assistance to this thread here :D :cool:

Yes sir! under your leadership, I am happy to help other bros here.

Sometimes I also want to help them, but they are so many, how to help? Taking care one of them is already a lot of burden. They don't speak our language, they have no money, they don't know anywhere, they cannot work and stay. Sometimes I really admire their courage. How dare they come here in the first place? If you put me in Vietnam for 1 month with only 50000 Dong at hand, and I have to earn my meals and air ticket back to Singapore, I really cannot survive!

jackbl
01-09-2009, 08:15 PM
We can help, may not be in term of monetary. Maybe by giving them the direction, let them know wat type of SIM CARD to use so that they can call back VN cheaper, etc... Many many that i cant think of now :D

Yes sir! under your leadership, I am happy to help other bros here.

Sometimes I also want to help them, but they are so many, how to help? Taking care one of them is already a lot of burden. They don't speak our language, they have no money, they don't know anywhere, they cannot work and stay. Sometimes I really admire their courage. How dare they come here in the first place? If you put me in Vietnam for 1 month with only 50000 Dong at hand, and I have to earn my meals and air ticket back to Singapore, I really cannot survive!

lovesprout
01-09-2009, 08:41 PM
We can help, may not be in term of monetary. Maybe by giving them the direction, let them know wat type of SIM CARD to use so that they can call back VN cheaper, etc... Many many that i cant think of now :D

Talking about this, if I suggest them one type of SIM CARD, then the result is I have to BUY for them. To them, the easiest way to "save money" is ask you to pay for it. Try suggesting a cheap airticket to them and see what happen. :p;):rolleyes:

Thom07
01-09-2009, 09:10 PM
Sounds experienced.

jackbl
03-09-2009, 01:24 AM
A turning point in the nation’s history
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10:24' 02/09/2009 (GMT+7)

VietNamNet Bridge - September 2, 1945 is a historic day for the Vietnamese nation as President Ho Chi Minh read out Vietnam’s Declaration of Independence in Hanoi’s Ba Dinh Square, proclaiming the birth of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam – the first of its kind in Southeast Asia.

The resounding victory of the August 1945 Revolution put an end to the enslavement of the Vietnamese people under the double yoke of French colonialists and Japanese fascists, as well as the feudal Nguyen dynasty. For the first time the administration was handed over to the working class and the people.

On the morning of September 2, 1945, nearly 500,000 well-dressed people converged on Ba Dinh Square, waiting for the declaration proclaiming the birth of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam. They happily packed the streets leading to Ba Dinh Square, hanging up slogans written in Vietnamese, English, French, Chinese and Russian. The slogans read: “The Vietnamese nation is for the Vietnamese”, “Independence or Death” and “Support President Ho Chi Minh”.

At the same time, mass meetings were taking place in Hue, Saigon and many other cities across the country. However, millions had their hearts turned to Hanoi.

At 14.00, President Ho and other officials from the provisional government took the stage in historic Ba Dinh Square. Hundreds of thousands of people looked up at the red flag with the five-pointed golden star flying as the band was playing the national anthem. They were standing there, hand in hand, showing their determination and iron will to defend their nation’s independence and freedom.

During this sacred moment, on behalf of the newly established provisional government, President Ho read out the Declaration of Independence and stated that the Democratic Republic of Vietnam was born.

The Declaration read, “All the peoples on earth are equal from birth. All the peoples have the right to live and to be happy and free..... A people who have courageously opposed French enslavement for more than 80 years, a people who have resolutely sided with the Allies against the fascists over the last few years, must be free! Such a people must be independent!.... Vietnam has the right to enjoy freedom and independence and now it has become a free and independent country. The entire Vietnamese people are determined to mobilise all their physical and spiritual strength and will sacrifice their lives and property in order to safeguard their freedom and independence.”

The Declaration of Independence opened up a new chapter in the course of the nation’s history. For the first time, Vietnamese people were proud to be citizens of their own free and independent nation.

September 2, 1945 went down in history as the first day of the independent Vietnamese nation, which had been ruled by the French colonialists for almost 100 years. It acknowledged the victory of a nation that pioneered the national liberation movement for oppressed nations around the world. It also ushered in a new era, as from then on the Vietnamese people had to endure two wars of resistance while taking great pains to defend the fledgling administration and reconstruct the war-torn country.

Thirty years later on April 30, 1975, the Party and people had accomplished their objective by totally liberating the southern region and reunifying the country. Ever since then the Vietnamese people have enjoyed independence and freedom and the immortal spirit of the Declaration is always in their minds.

Sixty-four years have elapse since the August Revolution and the Vietnamese people have made tireless efforts, even sacrificed their lives, to defend and build up the present-day nation. With its important significance and enormity, September 2 is now observed as the National Day of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.

VietNamNet/VOV

Jonas21
03-09-2009, 10:19 AM
Anybody can help translate the below sentence?

"Ngay mai anh toi u bup dien thoai cho em"

Tks.

KangTuo
03-09-2009, 10:23 AM
Anybody can help translate the below sentence?

"Ngay mai anh toi u bup dien thoai cho em"

Tks.

tomorrow you reach U-Pub telephone me

I am just guessing the 'u bup' = U Pub :D

Jonas21
03-09-2009, 10:41 AM
Thanks bro you are correct.

jackbl
03-09-2009, 11:14 AM
Bro, when are u going to start learning vietnamese? U are also a regular in pubbing at viet pub right? Sometime equipped yourself with a little knowledge will enable to communicate with the gals better :D :p ;)

Thanks bro you are correct.

Jonas21
03-09-2009, 11:16 AM
Bro, when are u going to start learning vietnamese? U are also a regular in pubbing at viet pub right? Sometime equipped yourself with a little knowledge will enable to communicate with the gals better :D :p ;)

Bro I can use viet to msg her cause I noe about vdict but when I received her sms, I'm not able to translate it back to english. So that's why got problem.

Jonas21
03-09-2009, 11:31 AM
Bro can help again?

"vay"

Thom07
03-09-2009, 12:39 PM
My guess is "vay" should have no particular meaning, just like our lah, leh, etcs.

leecs
03-09-2009, 12:53 PM
Anybody can help translate the below sentence?

"Ngay mai anh toi u bup dien thoai cho em"

Tks.

I also patronize U-PUB every sat.. :D

leecs
03-09-2009, 12:56 PM
Some comments on a site i read: The cost of expatriates in Vietnam

I have found it rather difficult to try and persuade companies into sending a young, rather inexperienced, recent graduate to work as an expatriate in Vietnam. However, I just recently told two companies in which I am interviewing with that I would be willing to buy my own ticket, find my own place to live, hire my own personal Xe Om, and take care of basically everything else. I said that all I would expect the company to do is to pay for my salary and any medical expenses I might incur.

I try and stress that I have no wife and kids to worry about. My Vietnamese is pretty moderate and would continue to get better as I lived there (I also have Rosetta Stone), so no language classes would be needed, etc.

What my real question is would be what else an expatriate would need to pay for him or herself if the company only paid for their base salary and medical expenses? Because that's what I'm telling companies I would do right now.

This will depend on your lifestyle. If you want to live well (similar comfort to a 1st world country) then it would be around $2000/month. If can live like a local then it would be about $500 (rent and rates will set you back 150-300/month). I suggest you holiday in Vietnam first to get a feel on how much things cost and how things are done in Vietnam before jumping in the deep end.

Just short to add, that Health Insurance is a MUST in Vietnam. I have lived here 13 years and surely I could not have stayed without that!

On the issue of salary; seen in relation to your young and yet inexperienced profile and that you are used to Western standard, I would say to you (and all others with same profile!) that coming here as you would like, you need a proper place to stay (Vietnam is in many ways a both hard and great place to live, so in the long run having a proper place to stay is, in my view, a MUST!) and at least a motorbike to drive (you will soon learn!). I would therefore recommend you ask for a minimum of net USD 3,000-4,000. A proper house, to westen standard, will cost you min. USD 600-800; to rent a motorbike another USD 200-300; maid/cleaner at home USD 100-120 and on top comes electricity etc., easily another USD 200 if the aircon is a need. You need to add a home leave ticket every 6, 9 or 12 months; surely it advantageous to leave Vietnam once in a while and get your "batteries recharged".

As you can see, Lam James (the other person giving you advice) and I, do not in full agree; the difference in suggested salary derived from what you want, what your mindset "require". I can only say that I have been and is happy living in Vietnam, but getting the basics (insurance, proper house, transport etc.) right has been and is a MUST.

I wish you find your way here; it is trully a dearly loveable country! -- but do not pay a price too high; life in Western surrounding is also not too bad!

Thanks for the two different perspectives. I actually stayed in Vietnam for six months and worked for Target Sourcing Services while there. I lived off 5 million VND a month without having to pay rent and it was honestly hard for me to spend that all. Even thought that was a pretty low amount, I was willing to work for free for the experience of working overseas. Although that was before I graduated as well, so I would be expecting a lot more now.

Vietnam is pretty great Soeren Juelsbak, which is why I'm making a hard effort to come back. My interest with the country only heightens with each visit and I just can't seem to shake it off. Either way, all these comments are great and make my desire to return even stronger.

I agree that what you need to ask for is what you desire and feel what you are worth. If you coming here and being hired by a company, then by all means you need some monthly allotment for housing as well as salary and health insurance. If you are coming on your own and wanting to start your own company, then that's a different story but quite exciting as this is a great time to be an entrepreneur during the current global situation. If you've been here for 6 months already then you know the relative costs already.
I think there is a happy medium between living fully Western style and living fully local style. A motorbike is a must but it does take some time to learn how to navigate the "organized chaos" of the millions of other motorbikes without getting fully frustrated. If you have a strong desire to be here then just do it. If you plan to be here for a long time then you should love the place and respect the fact that as expats we will always be a guest here and we need to remember that fact. It sounds like you already have "the bug" to be here. do it my friend. Thank you.

naemlo
03-09-2009, 01:05 PM
A proper house, to westen standard, will cost you min. USD 600-800; to rent a motorbike another USD 200-300; maid/cleaner at home USD 100-120 and on top comes electricity etc., easily another USD 200 if the aircon is a need.

My Apartment in Hanoi, 2 rooms 90sqm is about 700USD. Brand new rented bike is abt 100SGD per mth. Part time maid is 50USD. Electricity never exist 150SGD with air con. Sometimes with colleagues, 3 air con on whole day n nights.

jackbl
04-09-2009, 12:56 AM
Another History Lesson:

People pay respect to Uncle Ho on his death anniversary
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Despite bad weather, thousands of people from throughout the country flocked to the hometown of late President Ho Chi Minh in Kim Lien Commune, Nam Dan District, Nghe An Province, in commemoration of the 40th anniversary of the death of the hero of national liberation (September 2).

The managing board of Kim Lien Historical –Cultural Site said that this is the period each year when the site welcomes the largest of number of visitors.

More than 20 million people have visited the President’s native village over the past 40 years to pay tribute to him after his death on memorial days, including his birthday May 19, death anniversary September 2 and Lunar new year (Tet) holidays.

In Hanoi, statistical reports from the Ho Chi Minh President Mausoleum Protection High Command indicated that some 31,000 visitors went to the mausoleum in the morning of September 2 to pay respect and gratitude to the prominent national leader, who was honored by UNESCO in 1990 as a national liberation hero and great man of culture.

September 2 is also National Independence Day of Vietnam.

By staff writers – Translated by Phuong Lan

retsoor
04-09-2009, 11:49 AM
In HN, for years I stayed in a house in Lang Nghi Tam, right on the lake, around 400 sq m. 8 rooms, 4 bathrooms, for 1500US$. I moved when the house was no longer bordering the lake because they built the stupid road (of course, in a VN mind the road in front is much better than being able to spit from the living room into the lake, so the house now goes for 3500US$, to a moron with 3500US$ housing budget who doesn't care what he pays and inflates prices for the rest of us...).

Now I live in the city center, french-vietnamese style mini house, 4 small rooms on 4 floors, 2 bathrooms, 350US$, including internet. Aircon bill very low compared to old house, and I can walk everywhere, including 17 saloon. :)

I pay my cook/maid 300$ for half day, including a motorbike, and she also does quite a lot of work related to my business (particularly gov't realated stuff, like registering/winding down a company). I realised she's much better at dealing with people than most young graduates. She's been working for me for 5 years, I used to pay her 500$ a month full time previously, I then helped her to get a job as a cook for an ambassador (she's one of the better cooks in HN, trained cook of course, worked at sofitel metropole, hilton, vine etc), for 900US$ + pension + health insurance, but after 2-3 months she wanted to come back to me. Her family put a lot of pressure on her to stay in the other job because of the money, but I guess after 5 years, there's something like mutual loyalty between us, and the ambassador was an asshole.

300US$ may sound expensive, but it isn't, I'm basically eating 5* food every day, at close to street food prices. This is the kind of things you can only do in VN, and one of the reasons why I love to live here.

Thinking about it - it's what I have to pay for the gym, after all the food, that makes her expensive...

jackbl
04-09-2009, 12:51 PM
Thanks for the insight of the Hanoi environment. Personally have NOT stay in vn for long, and not in apartment, house, etc....

The sentence below difficult to understand lei :D :p
Thinking about it - it's what I have to pay for the gym, after all the food, that makes her expensive...

raibo
04-09-2009, 03:49 PM
(But not to those that say "Today I no customer, can give me lucky?" For this, I dun even give $1)



I bet many of us had enounter this many many times..

Somehow this remind me of a gal friend of my regular sometime ago.

She took a small glass of beer to cheer with me for lucky.
She ask me for a handshake for lucky.
She even ask me to give her a coin for lucky.

Does their culture teaching them into believe in luck??
Or they really believe in luck or what??

vagrant
04-09-2009, 04:19 PM
[QUOTE=raibo;4075534]She even ask me to give her a coin for lucky.
/QUOTE]

Now so many of them like to pull this type of cheapskate stunt to get easy money. There was once when I gave the fren of a vb sitting with me $2 when she asked me for lucky money, she did not take and wanted $10. When I refused she scolded me in vietnamese :mad:

Those vb that came to Singapore long time ago have more integrity, did not encounter such nonsense with them.

Btw, I personally believe in lucky money. So bro, can you give me some for lucky? :D:p

casannova03
04-09-2009, 04:32 PM
[QUOTE=raibo;4075534]
Those vb that came to Singapore long time ago have more integrity, did not encounter such nonsense with them.

Btw, I personally believe in lucky money. So bro, can you give me some for lucky? :D:p


Actually last time also have la.... but not so much. But youwill have to put things in perspective. In my own thread i think i have mentioned somewhere that the customer-girl ratio was very much different back then.

Last time it was girls a bunch and customer 3 lorries load full so almost all nights no matter how ugly you are you will be albl to earn something.

Now its the reverse. Girls 3 lorries load full and customers a bunch.... so you will naturally see the rise in the asking of lucky money.

Normally, I will just tell these lucky-money-girls to eat the watermelon slices that are served!! cos they red in colour(lucky), watery(signifies money) and they are crunchy(signifies business "ping ping pong pong" - very busy! :D:D

casannova03
04-09-2009, 04:39 PM
My guess is "vay" should have no particular meaning, just like our lah, leh, etcs.

Yes, "vay" does not have a particularly strict meaning. It depends on how you use it in a sentence.

Most of the time though, it will mean “这样”。or "like this" if it appears a the front of a sentence.

E.g: Vay hom nay anh di gap em.

Like this today I go meet you.


But if it appears at the end of the sentence, its like a compliment to the sentence and has no particular meaning.


E.g: Em dang lam gi vay?

What are you doing (huh, now, leh etc etc...)

Correct me if i am wrong pls....Master Jackb...:D:D

vagrant
04-09-2009, 04:55 PM
Yes, "vay" does not have a particularly strict meaning. It depends on how you use it in a sentence.


Yo master casannova, since u r now online, is 'Vi and 'Nen' also similar to 'Vay'?

Eg. Vi hom nay troi dep nen toi di choi
Because it is a beautiful day, I am going out.

Cam on :)

Jonas21
04-09-2009, 06:58 PM
any bros can help to translate the below sentence?

"em dang lam mat di lam co gi khong anh"

Hurricane88
04-09-2009, 07:16 PM
any bros can help to translate the below sentence?

"em dang lam mat di lam co gi khong anh"

This one i can try...i am working tired to go to work what is the matter you...:)

Jonas21
04-09-2009, 07:19 PM
This one i can try...i am working tired to go to work what is the matter you...:)
Dun really understand the behind part, "what is the matter you"? Got another meaning?

Jonas21
04-09-2009, 07:24 PM
Dun really understand the behind part, "what is the matter you"? Got another meaning?
Bro another one can help? I'm using vdict to translate but they need actual vietnam word than can translate not like the below, below sentence vdict is not able to translate at all. Maybe I need to talk to the gal to ask her sms in actual vietnamese than I dun need help in here. Real pai say for the bros that are helping and thanks alot.

"bay gio ha em dang lam lung chung sao gap anh duoc toi gap ha"

Hurricane88
04-09-2009, 07:27 PM
any bros can help to translate the below sentence?

"em dang lam mat di lam co gi khong anh"

Dun really understand the behind part, "what is the matter you"? Got another meaning?

Hahaha...wat she meant is "what do you want" because you sms her right...:)

Hurricane88
04-09-2009, 07:32 PM
Bro another one can help? I'm using vdict to translate but they need actual vietnam word than can translate not like the below, below sentence vdict is not able to translate at all. Maybe I need to talk to the gal to ask her sms in actual vietnamese than I dun need help in here. Real pai say for the bros that are helping and thanks alot.

"bay gio ha em dang lam lung chung sao gap anh duoc toi gap ha"

Now i am working can you meet now..

Jonas21
04-09-2009, 07:52 PM
Can help again?

"Anh an di em moi an roi"

Hurricane88
04-09-2009, 07:57 PM
Can help again?

"Anh an di em moi an roi"

You go to eat i ate already...

Sha_Gua75
04-09-2009, 09:35 PM
is 'Vi and 'Nen' also similar to 'Vay'?

Eg. Vi hom nay troi dep nen toi di choi
Because it is a beautiful day, I am going out.


Vi = Because
Nen = Therefore

Sha_Gua75
04-09-2009, 09:37 PM
"co gi khong anh"

co gi khong = have anything or not

Kefka
04-09-2009, 10:47 PM
"bay gio ha em dang lam lung chung sao gap anh duoc toi gap ha"

Now ah? I am half way done (working), how can i meet you? Meet at night?

Jonas21
04-09-2009, 11:13 PM
bro can help to translate?

"vay anh dang o dau muon gap em ha"

Kefka
04-09-2009, 11:19 PM
bro can help to translate?

"vay anh dang o dau muon gap em ha"

Then where are you, want to meet me ah?

Jonas21
05-09-2009, 02:02 AM
any bros still awake? can help?

"em xin loj anh bat anh cho doj"

billgates
05-09-2009, 02:56 AM
I think yr spelling is wrong
perhaps "em xin loi"... i m sorry...

"anh bat anh cho doi"???... mebbe... mebbe she says sorry for making u wait?


any bros still awake? can help?

"em xin loj anh bat anh cho doj"

billgates
05-09-2009, 03:05 AM
She could be saying:
I am doing/washing my face... is there anything, bro? :)


any bros can help to translate the below sentence?

"em dang lam mat di lam co gi khong anh"

jackbl
05-09-2009, 04:34 AM
Thank you sifu for the translation, your presence indeed give the bro here many convenience :D :) :p

Vi = Because
Nen = Therefore

co gi khong = have anything or not

jackbl
05-09-2009, 04:38 AM
Are u referring to me? But i m not master! I m still learning, maybe i abit more hardworking only so a bit better than the rest. if the rest work harder, they will catch up and be the GrandMasters and we can write in vietnamese instead :D )
Correct me if i am wrong pls....Master Jackb...:D:D

jackbl
05-09-2009, 04:56 AM
I guess she wanted to say "I am making my face(make-up) to go work, anything or not?"
any bros can help to translate the below sentence?

"em dang lam mat di lam co gi khong anh"

jackbl
05-09-2009, 05:02 AM
Other than pai say and thanks alot, any other things for us? :D :p
Real pai say for the bros that are helping and thanks alot.

jackbl
05-09-2009, 05:06 AM
Hi Sir, either u are a very hardworking person who checked every words to be able to translate this sentence, if not you must have a good knowledge of vietnamese language..... Chao ban!

Pls visit here often to lend a hand to others. My advice to ppl is to check the dictionary first cos its really a useful tool.... anyone agreed to my idea?
Now ah? I am half way done (working), how can i meet you? Meet at night?

casannova03
05-09-2009, 05:10 AM
Other than pai say and thanks alot, any other things for us? :D :p

Wah go drink already cannot sleep ha? so EARLY in the morning post liao ha?:D:D

Tomorow i soing my usual joint, wanna join me?

jackbl
05-09-2009, 05:12 AM
Your translation is somewhere there...

Many youngsters is using j as a replacement for i in SMS cos to type i, u need to press the No.4 key 3 times, while j is only 1time :D
E.g Chj=Chi=Sister
loj=loi
j=gi

I think yr spelling is wrong
perhaps "em xin loi"... i m sorry...

"anh bat anh cho doi"???... mebbe... mebbe she says sorry for making u wait?

jackbl
05-09-2009, 05:17 AM
Sorry that today I cant let u join my table. Initially I go there alone, so assigned to a 2-person table... Your group too big. Should have asked u to come in to take a look... Wher do u go after that?

After bathing, cant sleep. I think i went ktv too many times for the past 3 weeks until a bit bored.... I prefer pubs more, normally just ordered 1 jug for the whole nite, Other than Today :( :o
Wah go drink already cannot sleep ha? so EARLY in the morning post liao ha?

Tomorow i soing my usual joint, wanna join me?

KangTuo
05-09-2009, 05:34 AM
Sorry that today I cant let u join my table. Initially I go there alone, so assigned to a 2-person table... Your group too big. Should have asked u to come in to take a look... Wher do u go after that?

After bathing, cant sleep. I think i went ktv too many times for the past 3 weeks until a bit bored.... I prefer pubs more, normally just ordered 1 jug for the whole nite, Other than Today :( :o
Should come over 678. Then the group will be very very big. Haha
Jackbl, u today break away from your usual routine huh. No singing at ktv pub and cheong till now. Tot your curfew is1130pm

jackbl
05-09-2009, 05:46 AM
Today Friday and a bad day for me, felt v sad... :o :( Initially I went 674 alone... later Cassa called but the other tables are full, and mine can only sit 2.... I still sing at 674 but the selection is very limited. The rotation is v slow also.
Jackbl, u today break away from your usual routine huh. No singing at ktv pub and cheong till now. Tot your curfew is1130pm

jackbl
05-09-2009, 01:04 PM
So it will be easier for you to stay near city centre if u are going to chiong there alot....

Tourists and traffic: a bad combination
================================================== =====
Foreign travel companies have been telling Ho Chi Minh City travel agent that they’re going to stop sending tourists here unless traffic conditions improve.


They say traffic jams and unforgivable gridlock in HCMC often cause them to cut short the number of destinations on their trips, angering travelers who have already paid for their pre-planned tours.

La Quoc Khanh, deputy head of the municipal Department of Culture, Sports and Tourism, admitted that while it previously took tourists some 40 minutes to drive from the city center to the airport, even in the worst traffic, the time frame was now “unpredictable.”

“Traveling just five kilometers can take up to two hours sometimes,” he complained.

Khanh said a Japanese travel agent had lost money recently when two tour groups in Vietnam missed their flights back home due to traffic jams on the way to Tan Son Nhat Airport.

“They told me they would not send any more tourists to Vietnam if traffic conditions remained unchanged,” he said. The Japanese agent sends some 60,000 tourists to Vietnam each year, Khanh said.

Tour operators cannot afford to miss their flights as it costs them time, money and prestige.

To cope with the worsening traffic, many travel companies have reduced the number of destinations they visit in the city, distorting their itineraries and annoying travelers. Nobody likes having their tour schedule changed at the last minute.

Hoang, a tour guide from a major HCMC travel company, said he now has to fill his opening speech on the way from the airport to the hotel with explanations about the traffic barriers, potholes, dust and delays.

I recently asked 100 foreign travelers in Vietnam about what worried them about traveling in HCMC. Nearly 100 percent of the respondents said, “traffic jams.”

The numbers speak for themselves.

By Tran Tam

retsoor
05-09-2009, 02:36 PM
Your translation is somewhere there...

Many youngsters is using j as a replacement for i in SMS cos to type i, u need to press the No.4 key 3 times, while j is only 1time :D
E.g Chj=Chi=Sister
loj=loi
j=gi

9x txt msg language is my favorite game :)

also f = ph ("ko faj")
and w = qu ("chan wa!")

everything needs to be as short as possible, never write "ngay maj", just "maj". use abbreviations everywhere, like dc=duoc, dc=dia chi, dt=dien thoai. pepper everything with smileys and exotic signs, in the end you get this:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8647/ngonngu1.jpg

billgates
05-09-2009, 03:59 PM
whoaa.... this makes it even more complicated for beginners...:rolleyes:

very soon they will have stuff like our singlish knn... pcc... etc


9x txt msg language is my favorite game :)

also f = ph ("ko faj")
and w = qu ("chan wa!")

everything needs to be as short as possible, never write "ngay maj", just "maj". use abbreviations everywhere, like dc=duoc, dc=dia chi, dt=dien thoai. pepper everything with smileys and exotic signs, in the end you get this:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8647/ngonngu1.jpg

Hurricane88
05-09-2009, 04:04 PM
Other than pai say and thanks alot, any other things for us? :D :p

Anywhere i tried to help when all masters were chionging on fri nite...:)

Kefka
05-09-2009, 04:25 PM
Hi Sir, either u are a very hardworking person who checked every words to be able to translate this sentence, if not you must have a good knowledge of vietnamese language..... Chao ban!

Pls visit here often to lend a hand to others. My advice to ppl is to check the dictionary first cos its really a useful tool.... anyone agreed to my idea?


Yeah have to use dictonary and then you will remember after a few times. I only had to vdict lung chung this time. The other words:D i know in my mind already hehe

retsoor
05-09-2009, 05:06 PM
whoaa.... this makes it even more complicated for beginners...:rolleyes:

no, it's really very easy!!! and this is why. let me give you a piece of advice which worked for me...when in VN, and you receive some message you dont understand, just walk up to any goodlooking, well dressed girl who looks like she can speak a little bit of english, and ask her to help you understand the message. She'll love it. And you'll look good, because girls are sending messages to you, that makes you pre-approved, a good man, an interesting man. Try it! And when she does well, be sure to thank her, and ask for her number so you can practice more. Phai tap viet nhieu hon va co len :)

jackbl
05-09-2009, 05:11 PM
Sir, do u think this method works in SGP??? I want to know some pretty gals working in JC and GL, can use this?

when in VN, and you receive some message you dont understand, just walk up to any goodlooking, well dressed girl who looks like she can speak a little bit of english, and ask her to help you understand the message.

Hurricane88
05-09-2009, 05:12 PM
no, it's really very easy!!! and this is why. let me give you a piece of advice which worked for me...when in VN, and you receive some message you dont understand, just walk up to any goodlooking, well dressed girl who looks like she can speak a little bit of english, and ask her to help you understand the message. She'll love it. And you'll look good, because girls are sending messages to you, that makes you pre-approved, a good man, whom she can trust. Try it! :)

Wow lidat oso can...must try la...:)

retsoor
05-09-2009, 05:22 PM
Sir, do u think this method works in SGP??? I want to know some pretty gals working in JC and GL, can use this?

try it! ;)

KangTuo
05-09-2009, 06:35 PM
just walk up to any goodlooking, well dressed girl who looks like she can speak a little bit of english, and ask her to help you understand the message. She'll love it. And you'll look good, because girls are sending messages to you, that makes you pre-approved, a good man

Sir, do u think this method works in SGP??? I want to know some pretty gals working in JC and GL, can use this?

Wow lidat oso can...must try la...:)

Do not try it unless you really knows what the message means.
What if the gal sms you to F@#K you. You thought it is a funny sms and approach another gal to translate. Do you think you will be seen as good man?

in SGP most of the sms with the gals in JC and GL are 'noi chuyen bay wa'. If let other gals translate, you may not be seen as a good man.

retsoor
05-09-2009, 08:14 PM
@KangTuo: I don't know how many "FUCK YOU &%$#@" messages you usually get, but 99% of the messages I get are quite different and very innocent (typically sth like "a dag lam j day"?). Chances of giving a really "bad" msg to translate are LOW. And even if it should happen, if another girl translates a ""FUCK YOU &%$#@" msg, you don't lose anything - you only get to have an interesting conversation with a new girl. Tell that girl "oh, that's too bad, because I really want to learn more vietnamese. I love the culture of Vietnam. Maybe you can help me. Can you give me your number?"

The only sure thing is that NOT talking to girls is not going to get you anywhere. Meeting girls is a numbers game imho. The more you meet, the more you talk to, the more chances to make new and exciting experiences.

Jonas21
05-09-2009, 09:24 PM
I thanks the bros in here that are helping me to translate. Bro Billgates you are right, she did let me wait. Bro jackbl you mention to check the dictionary but I did used vdict, not really understand it. Cause what I received are english words not vietnamese, I do not know which is the correct viet word to check, so not really able to understand. Can help again to translate?

"vay anh dung co buon nua nha? som ve em ngu ve em moi day"

Jonas21
05-09-2009, 10:01 PM
Sorry bros 1 more

"anh dang o dau vay"

billgates
05-09-2009, 11:07 PM
Actually vdict is not very useful as you need to know the "context". The same words can have different meanings in different context. Best way to learn is to "interact" with the locals and keep those ears open when they speak.

Last sentence, she asks: "Were u upset"... (something like that)... went on to say "she left early, slept early...".

I thanks the bros in here that are helping me to translate. Bro Billgates you are right, she did let me wait. Bro jackbl you mention to check the dictionary but I did used vdict, not really understand it. Cause what I received are english words not vietnamese, I do not know which is the correct viet word to check, so not really able to understand. Can help again to translate?

"vay anh dung co buon nua nha? som ve em ngu ve em moi day"


She asks: "Where are you?". That's pretty basic VN, u should learn, bro.

Sorry bros 1 more

"anh dang o dau vay"

Kefka
05-09-2009, 11:38 PM
Can help again to translate?

"vay anh dung co buon nua nha? som ve em ngu ve em moi day"

So you don't be sad anymore ok? I went home early and slept, just woke up.

liver_pool8
06-09-2009, 02:28 AM
I wish to sms in viet to my gf.

Any bros can help me?

1. I reach your hse already

2. My friend maybe coming this fri

3. Gd nite. See u in the dreams

retire
06-09-2009, 03:36 AM
I wish to sms in viet to my gf.

Any bros can help me?

1. I reach your hse already

2. My friend maybe coming this fri

3. Gd nite. See u in the dreams


1. anh toi nha em roi.

2. ban anh co the toi thu sau nay.

3. chuc ngu ngon. gap em trong giac mo

:D

Jonas21
06-09-2009, 05:11 AM
any bros here noe is there any thing like the “无敌”that can do translation from chinese to english, got any those type of portable translator can do vietnamese to english? If have, where to get it? Tks.

jackbl
06-09-2009, 08:26 AM
I think there is 1 or 2 words with spelling mistake..... ve-->va

som ve em ngu ve em moi day"

So you don't be sad anymore ok? I went home early and slept, just woke up.

Thom07
06-09-2009, 05:32 PM
any bros here noe is there any thing like the “无敌”that can do translation from chinese to english, got any those type of portable translator can do vietnamese to english? If have, where to get it? Tks.

A lots of places have, eg. Mustafa, etc.

jackbl
06-09-2009, 05:45 PM
Hi, if u relies on others to feed u with info, u will only see from their very narrow point of view. If u step out yourself and try to "recee" and "test water" you may discover much more than other can give u....

any bros here noe is there any thing like the “无敌”that can do translation from chinese to english, got any those type of portable translator can do vietnamese to english? If have, where to get it? Tks.

jackbl
06-09-2009, 05:56 PM
I believe most of the bro here received sms are of "english words" without the vietnamese sign... So based on the context of your conversation u may guess roughly the meaning of the sentence. Even up to today, I still got problem understand every sms. If i dun know, i will call up the party and ask what is the real meaning of the sentence. During my days of learning viet, there does not exist such a thread called "Tieng viet lovers club" where some help can be seek. I sugg u to take note of all the translations that brothers here gave and compiled into your own of Reference.

Bro jackbl you mention to check the dictionary but I did used vdict, not really understand it. Cause what I received are english words not vietnamese, I do not know which is the correct viet word to check, so not really able to understand.

jackbl
07-09-2009, 12:57 AM
I thought of a way on how to "spoonfeed" frens who knows nothing about tieng viet to sms to their gals. I will start the ball rolling and all you GrandMaster and Expert level people please feel free to add more :D :p

1. Daily Greeting

Chao e! E khoe kg? An gi chua? Dang lam gi vay?

Hello! How are u? Eat anything already? Wat are u doing?

Other than "CHAO e", you can use:
Xin chao/Chao=Hello
Chao Buoi Sang/Chieu/Toi=Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening

KangTuo
07-09-2009, 10:17 AM
The only sure thing is that NOT talking to girls is not going to get you anywhere. Meeting girls is a numbers game imho. The more you meet, the more you talk to, the more chances to make new and exciting experiences.

probably you try to hook up innocent vn gal, thats why need something fun t strike a conversation.

I hook up vn gals in JC and GL. So I see gal i interested, I just ask them to sit with me to talk and I just need to take out my phone for them to key in their number. :p

lovesprout
07-09-2009, 12:09 PM
I would like to ask the meaning of the following sentences in red. I know she wants me to send her some money, but I don't know her excuses. Thanks.

bay gio vao hoc roi nen co them nhieu van de lam,em phai lo dong hoc phi,du thu hoc phi het.vat va qua!em mong sao cho som ra lam de khoi lo van de tien.van de ve tien lam em cam thay chan qua!

Now I enter school and that adds a lot more problems. I have to worry about school fee, xxxxx, money problems makes me feel tired (or fed up).

Hurricane88
07-09-2009, 02:04 PM
I thought of a way on how to "spoonfeed" frens who knows nothing about tieng viet to sms to their gals. I will start the ball rolling and all you GrandMaster and Expert level people please feel free to add more :D :p

1. Daily Greeting

Chao e! E khoe kg? An gi chua? Dang lam gi vay?

Hello! How are u? Eat anything already? Wat are u doing?

Other than "CHAO e", you can use:
Xin chao/Chao=Hello
Chao Buoi Sang/Chieu/Toi=Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening

Good job...only thing is newbies dun really bother to read previous posts or search the thread...unless you put into your signature for them to click...:)

retire
07-09-2009, 06:03 PM
I would like to ask the meaning of the following sentences in red. I know she wants me to send her some money, but I don't know her excuses. Thanks.

bay gio vao hoc roi nen co them nhieu van de lam,em phai lo dong hoc phi,du thu hoc phi het.vat va qua!em mong sao cho som ra lam de khoi lo van de tien.van de ve tien lam em cam thay chan qua!

Now I enter school and that adds a lot more problems. I have to worry about school fee, xxxxx, money problems makes me feel tired (or fed up).

it's exhausting..i wish i could start working soon so that i wont have to worry about money prob..

Hacks
07-09-2009, 08:07 PM
Good job...only thing is newbies dun really bother to read previous posts or search the thread...unless you put into your signature for them to click...:)

I bother to read. I bother to read. Haha. :D:p

jackbl
08-09-2009, 01:39 AM
I asked a vn fren and her translation is as below:

bay gio vao hoc roi nen co them nhieu van de lam= i start to go to school again so there is more problem

em phai lo dong hoc phi,du thu hoc phi het.vat va qua= i have to pay for school fee, there is lots of fees, so hard/difficult!

em mong sao cho som ra lam de khoi lo van de tien= i wish i graduated soon so that i dont have to worry about money

van de ve tien lam em cam thay chan qua!= finance difficulty makes me tired!

bay gio vao hoc roi nen co them nhieu van de lam,em phai lo dong hoc phi,du thu hoc phi het.vat va qua!em mong sao cho som ra lam de khoi lo van de tien.van de ve tien lam em cam thay chan qua!

Now I enter school and that adds a lot more problems. I have to worry about school fee, xxxxx, money problems makes me feel tired (or fed up).

casannova03
08-09-2009, 02:51 AM
Sorry that today I cant let u join my table. Initially I go there alone, so assigned to a 2-person table... Your group too big. Should have asked u to come in to take a look... Wher do u go after that?

After bathing, cant sleep. I think i went ktv too many times for the past 3 weeks until a bit bored.... I prefer pubs more, normally just ordered 1 jug for the whole nite, Other than Today :o

No problem bro, my friends din quite like the idea of going somewhere without rooms so in the end we went to my usual joint at lor 19.:p

Why that day so sad? :confused:

Anyway, either thurs or friday i will be going there again. if you are keen to join then SMS me k.;)

casannova03
08-09-2009, 03:04 AM
I believe most of the bro here received sms are of "english words" without the vietnamese sign... So based on the context of your conversation u may guess roughly the meaning of the sentence.


Agreed!! You need to know the context of your OWN conversation with your girl! Takes a lot of effort but trust me, when effort is put in, you will remember the words more...and the best thing is it stays in you head forever.

I still remember i used to click on ALL the available options for a vn word just so to find one that best fits into the sentence. Very very tedious!! but then again, in the process, you will not only learn the word you are looking for but also some other regularly used words in the process.;)

I believe this was how bro Jackbl and i started learning....:D

lovesprout
08-09-2009, 08:16 AM
I asked a vn fren and her translation is as below:



Thanks Jackbl and Retire. Your help is much appreciated! :D

VietnamLover
08-09-2009, 12:15 PM
I still remember i used to click on ALL the available options for a vn word just so to find one that best fits into the sentence.

Yes, that is what I always did for the last 5 years since 2004 and I still do that even now. For example, there are many similar 'co' words with different Latin tonal marks as shown below.

cố | cỗ | cổ | cô | cọ | có | cỏ | cň | co | cơ | cờ | cỡ | cớ

You will have to read the context and see which one is suitable and make sense.

Hurricane88
08-09-2009, 12:44 PM
Agreed!! You need to know the context of your OWN conversation with your girl! Takes a lot of effort but trust me, when effort is put in, you will remember the words more...and the best thing is it stays in you head forever.

I still remember i used to click on ALL the available options for a vn word just so to find one that best fits into the sentence. Very very tedious!! but then again, in the process, you will not only learn the word you are looking for but also some other regularly used words in the process.;)

I believe this was how bro Jackbl and i started learning....:D

Yes, that is what I always did for the last 5 years since 2004 and I still do that even now. For example, there are many similar 'co' words with different Latin tonal marks as shown below.

cố | cỗ | cổ | cô | cọ | có | cỏ | cň | co | cơ | cờ | cỡ | cớ

You will have to read the context and see which one is suitable and make sense.

hahaha...I too have to done alot of these and still sometimes dun know what it means...the process allow us to remember and learn....cheers....:)

Hurricane88
08-09-2009, 12:47 PM
I bother to read. I bother to read. Haha. :D:p

Yes, good for you...:)

jackbl
08-09-2009, 05:44 PM
Not still remember, but I am still doing it NOW. Still going thru the whole process, no choice, I m not talented and learn enough :(

I still remember i used to click on ALL the available options for a vn word just so to find one that best fits into the sentence. Very very tedious!! but then again, in the process, you will not only learn the word you are looking for but also some other regularly used words in the process.;)

I believe this was how bro Jackbl and i started learning....:D

jackbl
08-09-2009, 05:50 PM
Salute to you, Senior!!! I started around 2006...

Yes, that is what I always did for the last 5 years since 2004 and I still do that even now. You will have to read the context and see which one is suitable and make sense.

zhu star
09-09-2009, 09:31 AM
Hi bros:

Anyone can help me with the following translation?

Ox yeu bx dg an ma, chac tam45phut nua bx ve toi nha

Thank you all in advance

Cheers:)

lovesprout
09-09-2009, 10:44 AM
Hi bros:

Anyone can help me with the following translation?

Ox yeu bx dg an ma, chac tam45phut nua bx ve toi nha

Thank you all in advance

Cheers:)

Dear husband, wife is eating now. I am sure 45min more I will arrive home.

I don't know how to translate "tam" here. Should be "take a bath", but it doesn't make sense in this sentence. Maybe she want to take a bath after eating? Or maybe tam45 phut means 8:45.

zhu star
09-09-2009, 12:34 PM
Dear husband, wife is eating now. I am sure 45min more I will arrive home.

I don't know how to translate "tam" here. Should be "take a bath", but it doesn't make sense in this sentence. Maybe she want to take a bath after eating? Or maybe tam45 phut means 8:45.

Thank you very much for your help. I could not make head or tail out of the msg!

Hurricane88
09-09-2009, 01:41 PM
Dear husband, wife is eating now. I am sure 45min more I will arrive home.

I don't know how to translate "tam" here. Should be "take a bath", but it doesn't make sense in this sentence. Maybe she want to take a bath after eating? Or maybe tam45 phut means 8:45.

My guess is

Dear husband, wife is eating now. Well, 8.45am/pm, I will arrive home.

retire
09-09-2009, 05:42 PM
My guess is

Dear husband, wife is eating now. Well, 8.45am/pm, I will arrive home.

you may be right

but since she added the word 'nua' (which means 'more'), i think the whole sentence means

"i'm eating now, i'll reach home in about 45 mins"

the word "tam" here means "about"... it's usually used by people from the northern part.. those who are from the southern usually say "khoang" :)

zhu star
09-09-2009, 08:15 PM
you may be right

but since she added the word 'nua' (which means 'more'), i think the whole sentence means

"i'm eating now, i'll reach home in about 45 mins"

the word "tam" here means "about"... it's usually used by people from the northern part.. those who are from the southern usually say "khoang" :)

Wow, U hit jackpot, I am impress with your knowledge on their langague. It true that my gal is from the north. The way they speak is slightly different from the south. Din understand them initially, espcially the way them sms. It took me quite some time to learn and I am still learning.

Thank you:)

sevenhabits
09-09-2009, 08:45 PM
I want to add depth to the meaning of "tam".

"Ta^`m" indeed in this sentence below means "about". But "tam" actually is also a word to indicate distance and standard/level, rather than just a word to mean approximation (which "about" is). Its original and more formal meanings are the former.

Eg. "tam nhi`n" is the range to which you can see. "Tam nhin xa" means foresight. "Tam ta~" is a compound adjective to mean heaviness of things falling from the sky, such as rain. "Tam quan tro.ng" means importance. "-Du? tam" means to have enough of a standard to do something.

But yes "tam" is also an everyday word to mean "about". People ask you how far is the hotel from here, and you could say "tam 3 kilomet" or "about 3 kilometers."

It is not quite true that "khoang" are used by southerners and "tam" by northerners. But "tam" is mostly used in the north. On the other hand, given modern communication conveniences and the tv, there is heavy borrowing and mutual adoption of each other's words. So the north-south difference is important to a lesser extent than in the past.




you may be right

but since she added the word 'nua' (which means 'more'), i think the whole sentence means

"i'm eating now, i'll reach home in about 45 mins"

the word "tam" here means "about"... it's usually used by people from the northern part.. those who are from the southern usually say "khoang" :)

Hurricane88
10-09-2009, 01:00 PM
Ox yeu bx dg an ma, chac tam45phut nua bx ve toi nha

Cheers:)

So after so many variation of answers, maybe bro zhu star should speak to the ger and find out what she actually meant in her sms...then we can actually learn from this too...:)

VietnamLover
10-09-2009, 03:44 PM
chac tam45phut nua bx ve toi nha

Sure, about 45 minutes more, wife will arrive home.

For your info, 'tam' means 'about' in northern accent.

Hurricane88
11-09-2009, 12:44 PM
Wow, U hit jackpot, I am impress with your knowledge on their langague. It true that my gal is from the north. The way they speak is slightly different from the south. Din understand them initially, espcially the way them sms. It took me quite some time to learn and I am still learning.

Thank you:)

Pai-say...din see your post before I send out...thank you for confiming the translation...:)

zhu star
11-09-2009, 02:39 PM
So after so many variation of answers, maybe bro zhu star should speak to the ger and find out what she actually meant in her sms...then we can actually learn from this too...:)

Pai-say...din see your post before I send out...thank you for confiming the translation...:)

Thank you bro for your help. All the various translation given by the bros are pretty accurate. I am still learning all the times. The big problem is that my last gal was from HCMC, so whatever I learned from her is in southern tone etc, my current gal is from Hanoi and I have start all over again! Found out that Northern gals are more gentle than the South just like PRC gals.

If got opportunity, will buy you guys a drink in the pub. Cheers

Hurricane88
11-09-2009, 03:01 PM
Thank you bro for your help. All the various translation given by the bros are pretty accurate. I am still learning all the times. The big problem is that my last gal was from HCMC, so whatever I learned from her is in southern tone etc, my current gal is from Hanoi and I have start all over again! Found out that Northern gals are more gentle than the South just like PRC gals.

If got opportunity, will buy you guys a drink in the pub. Cheers

Thank you for your offer...no problem to help...enjoy yourself...:)

retsoor
11-09-2009, 03:03 PM
excellent explanation. Thank you Sir!


I want to add depth to the meaning of "tam".

"Ta^`m" indeed in this sentence below means "about". But "tam" actually is also a word to indicate distance and standard/level, rather than just a word to mean approximation (which "about" is). Its original and more formal meanings are the former.

Eg. "tam nhi`n" is the range to which you can see. "Tam nhin xa" means foresight. "Tam ta~" is a compound adjective to mean heaviness of things falling from the sky, such as rain. "Tam quan tro.ng" means importance. "-Du? tam" means to have enough of a standard to do something.

But yes "tam" is also an everyday word to mean "about". People ask you how far is the hotel from here, and you could say "tam 3 kilomet" or "about 3 kilometers."

It is not quite true that "khoang" are used by southerners and "tam" by northerners. But "tam" is mostly used in the north. On the other hand, given modern communication conveniences and the tv, there is heavy borrowing and mutual adoption of each other's words. So the north-south difference is important to a lesser extent than in the past.

Jonas21
11-09-2009, 03:22 PM
Recently I know a viet gal from u-pub, her friends told me she is still a virgin and willing to sell it off at 3k. Told me got other ppl interested in her. Any ideas is it worth the money? I don't think it is worth it cause what is so special about virgin? I dun noe any other bros have been offered by her b4, she goes to work in jazzy51 in the early night than goes over to u-pub after 51 closed. So care to share about what you think?

retsoor
11-09-2009, 03:32 PM
Bro, you are right. The only thing special about real virgins is that they are awkward and don't know what to do. If you meet a real virgin, your should make her pay you, for you teaching her.

I write "real virgin", because imho it's more likely you'll meet Lee Kuan Yew in that pub than a real virgin. There is a whole business around creating "virgins" in Vietnam, doctors will stitch them up, make the entrance a bit tighter, and place a piece of skin there, which is designed to break and bleed a little when entered, in an attempt to "virginize" them. It's a cheap procedure, and it can be repeated many times! Sure thing, it's the law of supply and demand, if there's a demand for virgins, someone will supply virgins... Do the math: -200$ for virginization, 3000$ for de-virginization, gross profit 2800$. Good business, eh?

Oh...I forgot to say...I have a few rare tiger tools for sale. I killed the Tigers myself, with my bare hands. These were some of the last tigers in Vietnam. You don't want virgins, you want the power of a Tiger! Tried and tested by myself and other brudders here, I guarantee you, you will be amazed. Girls will LOOOOOVEEE you!

Special offer valid today only, 1, for 1500$ only, 2 for 2000$. Offer expires tonight 20.00 sharp. No late orders accepted, price will revert to normal, 1800$ for 1. Act now! PM me to reserve yours! :)

Recently I know a viet gal from u-pub, her friends told me she is still a virgin and willing to sell it off at 3k. Told me got other ppl interested in her. Any ideas is it worth the money? I don't think it is worth it cause what is so special about virgin? I dun noe any other bros have been offered by her b4, she goes to work in jazzy51 in the early night than goes over to u-pub after 51 closed. So care to share about what you think?

Jonas21
11-09-2009, 03:59 PM
tiger tools? wat r they? care tro share more?

lovesprout
11-09-2009, 03:59 PM
Last week I learned something interesting about this word "say". After I drunk a jar of beer, I told my girl that "anh say ruou roi" (I am drunk). Then, my girl corrected me. She said since you drank beer (bia) not wine (ruou), you should say "say bia" not "say ruou". It seems that in Tieng Viet you have to specify how you got drunk, either by beer or by wine.

Later that night I sent her home. When we were in the taxi, she looked sick and told me that "em bi say xe". I didn't know what "bi say xe" is and worried that maybe it is life-threatening. I thought "say xe" is asthma or something even worse, so I asked her "bi say xe co chet kg?" (this "bi say xe" will let you die or not?). Then, she laughed so hard that she almost laughed her head off. After I arrived home, I checked dictionary, and realized that "say xe" is just "motion sickness in car (暈車)". No wonder she laughed so hard. I felt so embarrassed. :p

Hurricane88
11-09-2009, 05:27 PM
Last week I learned something interesting about this word "say". After I drunk a jar of beer, I told my girl that "anh say ruou roi" (I am drunk). Then, my girl corrected me. She said since you drank beer (bia) not wine (ruou), you should say "say bia" not "say ruou". It seems that in Tieng Viet you have to specify how you got drunk, either by beer or by wine.

Later that night I sent her home. When we were in the taxi, she looked sick and told me that "em bi say xe". I didn't know what "bi say xe" is and worried that maybe it is life-threatening. I thought "say xe" is asthma or something even worse, so I asked her "bi say xe co chet kg?" (this "bi say xe" will let you die or not?). Then, she laughed so hard that she almost laughed her head off. After I arrived home, I checked dictionary, and realized that "say xe" is just "motion sickness in car (暈車)". No wonder she laughed so hard. I felt so embarrassed. :p

Yes, thank you for sharing...i agreed...the gals always had car and air motion sickness...never xe om sickness...:)

Hurricane88
11-09-2009, 06:04 PM
Recently I know a viet gal from u-pub, her friends told me she is still a virgin and willing to sell it off at 3k. Told me got other ppl interested in her. Any ideas is it worth the money? I don't think it is worth it cause what is so special about virgin? I dun noe any other bros have been offered by her b4, she goes to work in jazzy51 in the early night than goes over to u-pub after 51 closed. So care to share about what you think?

3k is too much liao, heard can fetch around 10mil to 15mil vnd in hcm for gals around 14 to 18yrs old...btw, How old is this gal? Gals working in this environment difficult to believe she is virgin...maybe like what retsoor said stitch up again which is very common in vn...actually virgin gals are really first type having sex and hymen will tear and lead to bleeding...when gal is virgin she felt pain if not lubricated well and your little brother may also felt pain due to the tight hole...in some cases both may felt skin burning due to tight lesions...one fren of my had a virgin last year in hcm and the gal scratched him badly while they did it first time...:)

Jonas21
12-09-2009, 05:56 AM
Well she is only 19, I had my share of virgin, my oc herself was a virgin and loss to me. :)
So dun find it very fun. Well now i'm hoping to win her over by love instead of money, dunno is it possible.

Hurricane88
12-09-2009, 03:34 PM
Well she is only 19, I had my share of virgin, my oc herself was a virgin and loss to me. :)
So dun find it very fun. Well now i'm hoping to win her over by love instead of money, dunno is it possible.

bro, I think you are playing with fire since you are married...my advice is pay and forget...dun get involved with virgins...too sticky biz...:)

jackbl
12-09-2009, 03:51 PM
Extracted from "All Vietnam Related TCSS / Info / Gatherings / Help Thread"

BTW here is part of my collection of vietnamese words I like to use in text messages to tease girls.

example: my 5'oclock date for tomorrow sent me a txt msg today: "E dag o truong". Of course she's trying to say "I'm at school".

So I reply:
"E o truồng ah? Ko faj noj :)"

these are some of my favorite word which can be misunderstood to joke with girls:

Em o truong -> a) at school b) naked
Em mat kinh -> a) lost glasses b) finished period
mua bao -> a)buy newspaper b) buy condom
e dang om mot thang -> a) sick one month b) hugging a guy
e an buoi toi chua? -> a) did you eat dinner? b) did you eat my dick?

jackbl
14-09-2009, 01:22 AM
1. Daily Greeting

Chao e! E khoe kg? An gi chua? Dang lam gi vay?

Hello! How are u? Eat anything already? Wat are u doing?

Other than "CHAO e", you can use:
Xin chao/Chao=Hello
Chao Buoi Sang/Chieu/Toi=Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening

Ngu day chua? An com chua? Doi bung kg?
Wake up already? Eat rice already? Are u hungry?


2.Wishing Good nite

Chuc em ngu ngon! Co giac mo dep!
Wish u good night! Have a nice dream!

Ngu som nhe!
Sleep early!

zhu star
14-09-2009, 09:22 AM
3k is too much liao, heard can fetch around 10mil to 15mil vnd in hcm for gals around 14 to 18yrs old...btw, How old is this gal? Gals working in this environment difficult to believe she is virgin...maybe like what retsoor said stitch up again which is very common in vn...actually virgin gals are really first type having sex and hymen will tear and lead to bleeding...when gal is virgin she felt pain if not lubricated well and your little brother may also felt pain due to the tight hole...in some cases both may felt skin burning due to tight lesions...one fren of my had a virgin last year in hcm and the gal scratched him badly while they did it first time...:)

I agree with u that to pay 3k for a virgin is too much. Not long ago I was offered a virgin for only 400 bucks Din take the offer cos I not interested to bonk a gal with no experience.

Hurricane88
14-09-2009, 01:43 PM
I agree with u that to pay 3k for a virgin is too much. Not long ago I was offered a virgin for only 400 bucks Din take the offer cos I not interested to bonk a gal with no experience.

Wow 400 bucks is really cheap...can only get in the rural area and difficult to get in City...yes, bonking an inexperienced gal is no fun...:)

VietnamLover
14-09-2009, 03:13 PM
American flies to S'pore to find a Vietnam bride

Some matchmaking agencies here say they are seeing more foreigners looking for Asian wives

HE TOOK a look at a photo.

And that was enough for American Carrick Stomp, 25, to fly halfway around the world to ask the woman in the picture to be his wife.

The systems engineer flew to Singapore from Florida last month to choose a Vietnamese bride from matchmaking agency Vietnam Brides International, located in Orchard Plaza.

The agency was at the centre of a controversy in June this year, when a US human rights group protested against Diners Club offering its cardholders an interest-free instalment plan to pay for a Vietnamese bride.

The plan was eventually withdrawn.

Mr Stomp had seen a photo of Miss Vo Thi Thu, 23, on the agency's website and decided she was the one.

He is among a growing number of foreign men who turn up at matchmaking agencies in Singapore to find a Vietnamese bride.

The owner of Vietnam Brides International, MrMark Lin, said when he first started his business in 2003, almost all his clients were locals.

In 2004, he had a customer from the UK, and in 2007, he had three Taiwanese customers.

But this year alone, Mr Lin had three Taiwanese customers, as well as three customers from Italy, the US and France.

Family values

In an e-mail interview with The New Paper, Mr Stomp revealed that while he was studying computing at Florida International University in 2006, a Korean classmate had told him there were matchmaking agencies in Singapore that specialised in Vietnamese brides.

'I was interested in the emphasis on family and marriage that Vietnamese culture has. These are important to me,' he said.

Mr Stomp said he had two Caucasian girlfriends before. He had also dated two women of Latin American descent. All the relationships did not work out.

He said that most of the girls he dated did not share his values concerning love, family, marriage and commitment like a Vietnamese bride would.

So in March, Mr Stomp looked up the websites of matchmaking agencies worldwide, including South Korea and Taiwan.

He came across Vietnam Brides International's website and browsed its online bridal portfolio before coming here.

Mr Stomp said: 'As soon as I saw Thu's picture, I knew she was the right girl for me. Her smile was pure and innocent.'

Mr Stomp, who has Asian, Caucasian and Afro-American ancestry, said his parents had no issues with him finding a foreign bride.

He e-mailed Mr Lin, who arranged for him to meet Miss Thu when he arrived in Singapore early last month.

Knowing that communication would be a challenge, Miss Thu carried a small notebook that she used to write English words.

Mr Stomp said: 'We talked using short and easy-to-understand phrases.'

Sand gets in his eyes

Once, while shopping in Orchard Road with Miss Thu, sand got into Mr Stomp's eyes. She told him to go to a nearby washroom to wash his face.

After that incident, Mr Stomp said he was sure she was the one for him.

He said: 'She's very nice and sensitive. I'm so lucky to have met her.'

The New Paper spoke to Miss Thu separately in the agency's office.

She said in halting English: 'He's good to me and I know he's sincere about settling down.'

During the interview, an Italian man in his 50s arrived at the agency to choose a bride.

He declined to be interviewed, but Mr Lin said he lives in Thailand and was keen to remarry after a divorce several years ago.

Five girls who were in the agency office sat themselves around a table, hoping to be chosen. Within 10 minutes, the man chose MissHoang Thi Thanh Mai, 27, to be his wife.

Miss Mai said: 'Since this Italian man likes me and I'm comfortable with him, how long we know each other isn't a problem.'

The Internet has helped market Singapore's Vietnamese matchmaking agencies to an international audience.

Said Mr Lin: 'Many Singaporeans speak English, so we're better positioned to attend to overseas customers.

'There are Vietnamese matchmaking agencies in South Korea and Taiwan, but people there hardly speak English so it's hard for an American or a European to find a bride there.'

Mr Loi Eng Tuang, who runs South Phoenix Marriage Centre, said he had an Australian client last year.

Mr Francis Toh, owner of First Overseas International Matchmaker, said he had clients from US and China who learnt about his agency through the Internet.

When he opened shop in 2003, most of his clients were locals. After he launched his website in 2007, he had enquiries from foreigners, many of them from China.

This year, he has had three clients from China, one from US and one from India.

He said: 'With the Internet, potential clients can see how the girls look like so they won't make a wasted trip here.'

zhu star
14-09-2009, 05:23 PM
Wow 400 bucks is really cheap...can only get in the rural area and difficult to get in City...yes, bonking an inexperienced gal is no fun...:)

Din know it was cheap, the gal is about early 20, quite good looking, but I still not interested!:D Anyway, heard my super duper havoc viet gal that I am trying to avoid has already landed in SG after a one year absence here. Good thing I am going to Hanoi tmr, Phew!

retsoor
15-09-2009, 12:51 AM
another useful post from jackbl :)

can also say: "hom nay em the nao?" - how are you today.

if a girl asks you "anh co khoe khong?" - you say "anh khoe", or "binh thuong" (as usual, normal), and reply "con em?" - and you?

and for g'nite, can also say (works particularly well when a girl is tired) "dem nay em di ngu di...em se gap anh trong giac mo nhe :)" - go to sleep this night...you will meet me in your dream :)


1. Daily Greeting

Chao e! E khoe kg? An gi chua? Dang lam gi vay?

Hello! How are u? Eat anything already? Wat are u doing?
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jackbl
15-09-2009, 01:09 AM
Consolidated from retsoor's post

1. Daily Greeting

Chao e! E khoe kg? An gi chua? Dang lam gi vay?

Hello! How are u? Eat anything already? Wat are u doing?

Other than "CHAO e", you can use:
Xin chao/Chao=Hello
Chao Buoi Sang/Chieu/Toi=Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening

Ngu day chua? An com chua? Doi bung kg?
Wake up already? Eat rice already? Are u hungry?

hom nay em the nao?
how are you today?

anh khoe
I am well.

Anh binh thuong
I m as usual, normal

con em?
And you?

2.Wishing Good nite

Chuc em ngu ngon! Co giac mo dep!
Wish u good night! Have a nice dream!

Ngu som nhe!
Sleep early!

Dem nay em di ngu di...em se gap anh trong giac mo nhe
Go to sleep this night...you will meet me in your dream

jackbl
15-09-2009, 03:04 PM
1. Daily Greeting

Chao e! E khoe kg? An gi chua? Dang lam gi vay?
Hello! How are u? Eat anything already? Wat are u doing?

Other than "CHAO e", you can use:
Xin chao/Chao=Hello
Chao Buoi Sang/Chieu/Toi=Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening

Ngu day chua? An com chua? Doi bung kg?
Wake up already? Eat rice already? Are u hungry?

hom nay em the nao?
how are you today?

anh khoe
I am well.

Anh binh thuong
I m as usual, normal

con em?
And you?

Alo, e dang o dau? Dang lam gi?
Hello, where are u now? What are u doing?

Em co nho anh kg? A nho e nhieu lam! May ngay nay kg gap em, a rat buon.
Do u miss me? I miss u alot! These few days didnt meet u, I very sad :D



2.Wishing Good nite

Chuc em ngu ngon! Co giac mo dep!
Wish u good night! Have a nice dream!

Ngu som nhe!
Sleep early!

Dem nay em di ngu di...em se gap anh trong giac mo nhe
Go to sleep this night...you will meet me in your dream

Reaper
15-09-2009, 03:55 PM
This one for you guys....Lets see who can translate it...

Phải chăng těnh yęu bắt đầu bằng một nụ cười ấm áp, một nụ hôn nồng
cháy vŕ kết thúc bằng nứơc mắt? Těnh yęu thật sự không phải lŕ sự thay
đổi con tim, nhưng lŕ ao ước người měnh yęu hạnh phúc đích thực

hidetox
15-09-2009, 09:12 PM
Good day guys! I need help in translation!

toi cung nho a Jon, dien thoai cua toi het tien roi, khong noi duoc nhieu


Many thanks!

Hurricane88
15-09-2009, 09:52 PM
Good day guys! I need help in translation!

toi cung nho a Jon, dien thoai cua toi het tien roi, khong noi duoc nhieu


Many thanks!

I also miss bro Jon, telephone you no money already, cannot speak can alot

hidetox
15-09-2009, 10:00 PM
I also miss bro Jon, telephone you no money already, cannot speak can alot
Thank you so much, just found vdict in the earlier pages, will do some studying and cross referencing! Cheers! :D

jackbl
16-09-2009, 02:27 AM
I also miss Jon, telephone of mine got no money already, cannot say alot
toi cung nho a Jon, dien thoai cua toi het tien roi, khong noi duoc nhieu


Many thanks!

Noah
16-09-2009, 10:48 AM
Hey bro anyone have any Viet FL??? yet to try one.:D

jackbl
16-09-2009, 11:00 AM
Yo this thread is not for Looking for FL....:mad:
Hey bro anyone have any Viet FL??? yet to try one.:D

KangTuo
16-09-2009, 12:12 PM
Yo this thread is not for Looking for FL....:mad:

bro, don't jump to conclusion.
he may be looking for Viet Female Lecturer

69Sniper
16-09-2009, 02:01 PM
always in here so long but never kno this thread is to learn vietnamese.....:o now at least i kno what the 'tieng" stands for.....:p

nice thread, will visit her often....;)

KangTuo
16-09-2009, 04:17 PM
nice thread, will visit her often....;)

Who? hahaha :D:p

Hurricane88
16-09-2009, 04:20 PM
I also miss Jon, telephone of mine got no money already, cannot say alot

Yes...yours is accurate...i purposely translate as it is so can see how tieng viet is really rojak....:)

69Sniper
16-09-2009, 05:17 PM
Who? hahaha :D:p

oops type wrongly, should be "here" :o

dun mind if its a HER too......haven got one yet......:p

hidetox
17-09-2009, 12:07 PM
Need some help again!

Em dang o nha an com, toi nay anh gap em duoc khong?

Dien thoai cua em het tien roi, anh cho tien vao dien thoai cua em duoc khong? dien thoai het tien em khong noi chuyen duoc

Can't really decipher anything except for the fact that her prepaid is running low, and if im not wrong, she wants me to get a replacement card for her -.-

Hurricane88
17-09-2009, 01:25 PM
Need some help again!

Em dang o nha an com, toi nay anh gap em duoc khong?

Dien thoai cua em het tien roi, anh cho tien vao dien thoai cua em duoc khong? dien thoai het tien em khong noi chuyen duoc

Can't really decipher anything except for the fact that her prepaid is running low, and if im not wrong, she wants me to get a replacement card for her -.-

Em dang o nha an com, toi nay anh gap em duoc khong?
I am at home eating, today you want to meet me or not

Dien thoai cua em het tien roi, anh cho tien vao dien thoai cua em duoc khong? dien thoai het tien em khong noi chuyen duoc
My phone run out of money, you give me money to top up my telephone can or not? My phone run out of money I cannot say anything

leecs
17-09-2009, 01:45 PM
Oh no, someone is asking for $$$:D:D

jackbl
17-09-2009, 03:28 PM
Yo boss, u basically ignore my posting previously :D :D.

There are some clues of words that u need to translate leh.... OR u think my level is rubbish, dun trust me is it? :( :o


1. Daily Greeting

Chao e! E khoe kg? An gi chua? Dang lam gi vay?
Hello! How are u? Eat anything already? Wat are u doing?

Other than "CHAO e", you can use:
Xin chao/Chao=Hello
Chao Buoi Sang/Chieu/Toi=Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening

Ngu day chua? An com chua? Doi bung kg?
Wake up already? Eat rice already? Are u hungry?

hom nay em the nao?
how are you today?

anh khoe
I am well.

Anh binh thuong
I m as usual, normal

con em?
And you?

Alo, e dang o dau? Dang lam gi?
Hello, where are u now? What are u doing?

Answers:
o nha = at home
o khach san = at hotel
o cho = at market
o ngoai (duong) = at outside (road)
o chůa = at temple
o cho lam = at working place
o trung tâm buôn bán } shopping centre
o trung tâm thương mại }


Em co nho anh kg? A nho e nhieu lam! May ngay nay kg gap em, a rat buon.
Do u miss me? I miss u alot! These few days didnt meet u, I very sad


2.Wishing Good nite

Chuc em ngu ngon! Co giac mo dep!
Wish u good night! Have a nice dream!

Ngu som nhe!
Sleep early!

Dem nay em di ngu di...em se gap anh trong giac mo nhe
Go to sleep this night...you will meet me in your dream

3.Time

Toi/Dem nay= Tonight
Hom/Bữa nay= Today
Now= bây giờ, giờ đây, hiện nay, ngŕy nay


Need some help again!

Em dang o nha an com, toi nay anh gap em duoc khong?

Dien thoai cua em het tien roi, anh cho tien vao dien thoai cua em duoc khong? dien thoai het tien em khong noi chuyen duoc

Can't really decipher anything except for the fact that her prepaid is running low, and if im not wrong, she wants me to get a replacement card for her -.-

VietnamLover
17-09-2009, 05:48 PM
Phải chăng těnh yęu bắt đầu bằng một nụ cười ấm áp, một nụ hôn nồng
cháy vŕ kết thúc bằng nứơc mắt? Těnh yęu thật sự không phải lŕ sự thay
đổi con tim, nhưng lŕ ao ước người měnh yęu hạnh phúc đích thực

Reasonable love begins with a warm smile, a fervid kiss and ends with tears? True love does not change the heart, but the desire of lover's authentic happiness.

sonic24
18-09-2009, 02:03 AM
You guys are amazing. I start to learn a bit of viet language and stumbled across this thread. it literally fast-tracked my learning. anyway i came across this website www.Byki.com (http://www.byki.com). its free and simple to use. hope this helps the rest of the bros who love this language so much and of course the girls too. :cool:

vlover
18-09-2009, 06:28 AM
always in here so long but never kno this thread is to learn vietnamese.....:o now at least i kno what the 'tieng" stands for.....

nice thread, will visit her often....

Join us for our weekend sessions in Singapore (JC n Geylang) and you will learn more from my MASTER KT... hihihi.. :p;):D

Very soon, with his guidance and the long hair teachers, your vietnamese will reach another level..

Regards,
vlover

vlover
18-09-2009, 06:30 AM
Who? hahaha

Anh oi, hom nay di dau vay? Hom qua em voi Carrot va Vk di geylang uong bia nhung ma kg co gap anh.. Buon qua, hom nay nho nhan tin cho em nhe..

Regards,
vlover

vlover
18-09-2009, 06:35 AM
Wow 400 bucks is really cheap...can only get in the rural area and difficult to get in City...yes, bonking an inexperienced gal is no fun...

The rate for a virgin in City is around S$700.. That was what I heard a few months ago.. for 400 bucks, should be in rural areas cos 400 bucks is damn a lot to them already..

In sg, they tend to ask for a lot more.. was offered once in HM for a virgin, was quoted S$2000..

Regards,
vlover

SING_IN_HCMC
18-09-2009, 09:06 AM
Wow 400 bucks is really cheap...can only get in the rural area and difficult to get in City...yes, bonking an inexperienced gal is no fun...:)

My HCMC associate told me a lot of the so-called virgins are fake ones. They were operated upon for barely US$50 to recertify as virgin again.

KangTuo
18-09-2009, 09:27 AM
you will learn more from my MASTER KT... hihihi..

The real Master is jackbl. I am real lousy in speaking tieng viet. Pronunciation always inaccurate. :)

Anh oi, hom nay di dau vay? Hom qua em voi Carrot va Vk di geylang uong bia nhung ma kg co gap anh.. Buon qua, hom nay nho nhan tin cho em nhe..


Whao so much tineg viet... i dun understand leh. :D
you are the captain for todays activation... I will be your messenger to activate the rest who are still in sillypore

jackbl
18-09-2009, 10:23 AM
Vlover means you are his Master, u taught him vietnamese....... I m not real master, i copy and paste from internet only :D :p Thanks for singing praise of me. It makes me very HIGH liao, tonight no need drink much :D

The real Master is jackbl. I am real lousy in speaking tieng viet. Pronunciation always inaccurate.

Hurricane88
18-09-2009, 10:50 AM
Vlover means you are his Master, u taught him vietnamese....... I m not real master, i copy and paste from internet only :D :p Thanks for singing praise of me. It makes me very HIGH liao, tonight no need drink much :D

Master teacher jackbl the thay giao...I had always hold you in high regards...:)

Hurricane88
18-09-2009, 10:53 AM
The rate for a virgin in City is around S$700.. That was what I heard a few months ago.. for 400 bucks, should be in rural areas cos 400 bucks is damn a lot to them already..

In sg, they tend to ask for a lot more.. was offered once in HM for a virgin, was quoted S$2000..

Regards,
vlover

My HCMC associate told me a lot of the so-called virgins are fake ones. They were operated upon for barely US$50 to recertify as virgin again.

That's why dun bother to go for Virgins la...oso dun know real or bluff...as discussed, virgins are dead fish dun know what to do where got fun...:)

jackbl
18-09-2009, 05:06 PM
Can u give us the answer? Thanks :)
This one for you guys....Lets see who can translate it...

DC74
18-09-2009, 07:44 PM
Hi Bros, how do i translate this "Hey xxx, do you still wanna go temple pray Kuan Yin tomorrow?" from english to viet. Thanks alot.

jackbl
19-09-2009, 09:53 AM
If so, when u come back, must jio me go out for a drink liao hor, dun quiet quiet come and quiet quiet go back hcmc hor....:D
Master teacher jackbl the thay giao...I had always hold you in high regards...:)

jackbl
19-09-2009, 10:04 AM
XXX oi, ngay mai em con muon di chua Quan Am nua khong?

Hi Bros, how do i translate this "Hey xxx, do you still wanna go temple pray Kuan Yin tomorrow?" from english to viet. Thanks alot.

Reaper
19-09-2009, 10:17 AM
Reasonable love begins with a warm smile, a fervid kiss and ends with tears? True love does not change the heart, but the desire of lover's authentic happiness.

*CLAP**CLAP**CLAP**CLAP*

Well done Vietnam Lover.....Even the english you use is better than mine. I translated it from a simpler version of english. :o

Hurricane88
19-09-2009, 10:37 AM
*CLAP**CLAP**CLAP**CLAP*

Well done Vietnam Lover.....Even the english you use is better than mine. I translated it from a simpler version of english. :o

Vietnam Lover...master thay giao tieng viet...clap clap clap...88 gun salute...applause...:)

Hurricane88
19-09-2009, 10:41 AM
If so, when u come back, must jio me go out for a drink liao hor, dun quiet quiet come and quiet quiet go back hcmc hor....:D

Hello bro, i am not base in hcm la...now in sin la...going to hcm next weekend...i dun drink in sin...only drink in hcm...:)

jackbl
19-09-2009, 10:45 AM
This one for you guys....Lets see who can translate it...

Phải chăng těnh yęu bắt đầu bằng một nụ cười ấm áp, một nụ hôn nồng
cháy vŕ kết thúc bằng nứơc mắt? Těnh yęu thật sự không phải lŕ sự thay
đổi con tim, nhưng lŕ ao ước người měnh yęu hạnh phúc đích thực

Reasonable love begins with a warm smile, a fervid kiss and ends with tears? True love does not change the heart, but the desire of lover's authentic happiness.

Hi both bros, i personally think that the words in red does not mean its translated words.... Even though in dictionary it means "right and wrong. reasonable, sensible". IMHO, Phải chăng is a "question words". In short, i translate as IS IT that love begins with.....?

DC74
19-09-2009, 10:52 AM
XXX oi, ngay mai em con muon di chua Quan Am nua khong?

Thanks bro.

Reaper
19-09-2009, 01:48 PM
Hi both bros, i personally think that the words in red does not mean its translated words.... Even though in dictionary it means "right and wrong. reasonable, sensible". IMHO, Phải chăng is a "question words". In short, i translate as IS IT that love begins with.....?

Both you guys are correct. VietnamLover has translated it further to make it sound more "artistic" and pleasent....

lovesprout
19-09-2009, 09:49 PM
I would like to ask the meaning of the following sentences:

1. em chi so rang khi anh nghe em dich anh cung se ko biet gi
2. nhong nheo ghi nhu the dung ko anh
3. o day lam gi co loai hang nay

Anyone can help? Thank you very much.

jackbl
20-09-2009, 01:39 AM
Yo bro, your hanoi gal Ah Hanh said that your level is as good as mine :)

I only scared that when u listen to my translation you also will not know anything

[QUOTE=lovesprout;4123027]I would like to ask the meaning of the following sentences:

1. em chi so rang khi anh nghe em dich anh cung se ko biet gi
QUOTE]

lovesprout
20-09-2009, 09:45 AM
[QUOTE=jackbl;4123561]Yo bro, your hanoi gal Ah Hanh said that your level is as good as mine :)

My hanoi gal Ah Hanh told me one of my friend called her, it must be you then. Well, she is not mine anymore. If you want to "bao" her, please go ahead.

I think your level of tieng viet is still higher than me. Like I said, I only studied tieng viet for 1 year and there are still many words/sentences I don't know. Try to learn something new every day. I would very appreciate if you can translate some of the sentences for me. Thanks.

jackbl
20-09-2009, 10:44 AM
I got a missed called with numbers +84xxx... I called back she said she is Ah Hanh friend of ah Huong. With her hanoinese accent i roughly guessed who she is liao :D If u wan to BAO a person at least she is within your reach, if too far, BAO for what right?

em chi so rang khi anh nghe em dich anh cung se ko biet gi==I only scared that when u listen to my translation you also will not know anything

My hanoi gal Ah Hanh told me one of my friend called her, it must be you then. Well, she is not mine anymore. If you want to "bao" her, please go ahead.

lovesprout
20-09-2009, 11:03 AM
[QUOTE=jackbl;4124052]I got a missed called with numbers +84xxx... I called back she said she is Ah Hanh friend of ah Huong. With her hanoinese accent i roughly guessed who she is liao :D If u wan to BAO a person at least she is within your reach, if too far, BAO for what right?

Her Hanoi accent is very funny right? I never meet any VN girls speak that way.

Last time she told me that if I marry her, she will not ask for any money. You may consider that possibility. :D

hidetox
20-09-2009, 01:16 PM
Heh heh! My girl finally starting to ask me for money to send home! If im not wrong, she's asking me for 200 to send to her mother! :D

Masters, am i right?

ngay mai em phai goi tien, cho ba me em o vietnam, hom nay em lam khong co tien, ngay mai anh cho em tien 200 duoc khong?

casannova03
20-09-2009, 02:21 PM
Heh heh! My girl finally starting to ask me for money to send home! If im not wrong, she's asking me for 200 to send to her mother! :D

Masters, am i right?

ngay mai em phai goi tien, cho ba me em o vietnam, hom nay em lam khong co tien, ngay mai anh cho em tien 200 duoc khong?

Yes you are right.:D

Translation(direct): Tomorrow I must send money, give mother and father in vietnam, today I work no money, tomorrow you give me money 200 can or not?

It really depends on your level of relationship with her. Gd luck!;)

hidetox
20-09-2009, 03:27 PM
Yes you are right.:D

Translation(direct): Tomorrow I must send money, give mother and father in vietnam, today I work no money, tomorrow you give me money 200 can or not?

It really depends on your level of relationship with her. Gd luck!;)
Thanks bro! I told her i will give her what i can! :D

This is what she replied, according to my interpretation, if i'm not wrong, she's asking me when can i give her the money. :D

Vay khi nao anh cho em tien

Hurricane88
20-09-2009, 03:35 PM
Thanks bro! I told her i will give her what i can! :D

This is what she replied, according to my interpretation, if i'm not wrong, she's asking me when can i give her the money. :D

Vay khi nao anh cho em tien

Yes you guessed right...

Vay khi nao anh cho em tien =
Today when can you give me money

hidetox
20-09-2009, 03:59 PM
Yes you guessed right...

Vay khi nao anh cho em tien =
Today when can you give me money
Thanks to all who have helped me! I just told her i cannot give her much as i'm not rich, hope she understands! Let's wait and see what she replies! :D

hidetox
20-09-2009, 04:40 PM
Guys, think i must sit down and kopi and learn from you masters soon! Cannot make out the entire sms, but i reckon it goes something like "thank you for your help, i appreciate it very much?"

cam on anh da giup do em, em se biet on anh rat nhieu

KangTuo
20-09-2009, 04:50 PM
Guys, think i must sit down and kopi and learn from you masters soon! Cannot make out the entire sms

no need to sit down for kopi and learn tieng viet.
you are already very good at it as you interpreted most of the sms yourself. :)

hidetox
20-09-2009, 04:59 PM
no need to sit down for kopi and learn tieng viet.
you are already very good at it as you interpreted most of the sms yourself. :)
no la, there's still much to learn! Have been reading some books and using pocket dictionary these few months! If got the chance, must kopi with you guys! :D

jackbl
21-09-2009, 05:03 AM
vậy does not means Today. Vay means "so, thus, that"
Vay khi nao anh cho em tien = Today when can you give me money

retsoor
21-09-2009, 12:07 PM
I borrowed a friends motorbike last week, and out of an impulse I started chatting with a girl:

A vua mua may bay moi.
that la chat!
nhanh nhu con trau gia.
hang honda ^_^

(I just bought a new airplane. Really good! Fast like an old buffalo. Honda brand)

By the time I had written the first 2 lines I already got a reply..."big surprise...what...you bought an airplane"? (vn girls may actually believe we non-vietnamese have a habit of regularly buying airplanes)

by the time I mentioned the Honda brand she was laughing, and replied: "Let me try that airplane, ok? Let's go flying together"

I have since used this pattern in txt messages as well...works like a charm...all girls seem to think it's funny, and 2 out of 3 times they will ask you to go flying.

naemlo
21-09-2009, 12:09 PM
I have since used this pattern in txt messages as well...works like a charm...all girls seem to think it's funny, and 2 out of 3 times they will ask you to go flying.

No wonder your Henessy ger loves u deep deep. :D

retsoor
21-09-2009, 12:48 PM
yes, she loves me because I can fly...like a bird...

On the occasion of the upcoming mid-autumn, a small poem for the expert brothers here...tôi viết cho các anh nhân dịp Tết Trung Thu:

Trung Thu lŕ Tết thiếu nhi
Có sao người lớn lại đi la cŕ
Người lớn lŕ trẻ em...giŕ
Chỉ khác trẻ nhỏ đó lŕ có...râu!

Trung Thu lŕ Tết thiếu nhi
Hỏi sao người lớn lại đi chơi nhiều
Đi chơi họ lại lŕm liều
Lŕm liều nęn mới ra nhiều thiếu nhi

Nếu mŕ người lớn không đi
Lŕm sao có thiếu nhi hả trời
Đó lŕ qui luật muôn đời
Trung thu lŕ tết mọi người đây thôi!


The key sentence in bold. Here are some explanations, this is what I needed to look up:

thiếu nhi=trẻ con
đi la cŕ=đi chơi
họ (as in family name)=they (the couple)
lŕm liều=to take a risk (not to be able to control oneself, in this case)
qui luật=to rule (luật alone is law of course)
muôn đời=forever (literally "thousand lives" I think)

if there's spelling mistakes they are all my fault...I'm trying to learn the Mac's built-in vietnamese font

zhu star
21-09-2009, 12:52 PM
Just came back from Hanoi, it was wet for the first three days and hot like oven for the next three days:mad:

Hurricane88
21-09-2009, 01:05 PM
vậy does not means Today. Vay means "so, thus, that"

Thank you cam on thay giao...e hoc viec...:)

jackbl
21-09-2009, 01:21 PM
Dun get what u meant. U already found the words....
The key sentence in bold. Here are some explanations, this is what I needed to look up:

retsoor
21-09-2009, 01:41 PM
yep, I don't have a problem understanding it now, I just wanted to share it :)

deptrai4u
21-09-2009, 01:59 PM
Just came back from Hanoi, it was wet for the first three days and hot like oven for the next three days:mad:

Wow! Wet and Hot... so s..exciting!

zhu star
21-09-2009, 03:41 PM
Wow! Wet and Hot... so s..exciting!

Exciting? Wait till you hear the number of flu and headache pills I took so that I can continue my tour of duty there!

KangTuo
22-09-2009, 12:56 AM
some new word i learned.

khi ton tai nao = sperm attack brain

"e oi, rat lau a kg di lam tinh roi, bay gio a khi don tai nao roi. A so 1ngay a bi khung. e giup a dc kg? e di lam tinh voi a dc kg?" :p

"x oi, very long I never go make love, now sperm attack my brain already. I afraid that 1 day I go mad. Can you help me? Can go make love with me?"

ruou nhap cuong dam noi loan = ???
anyone know what it means?

jackbl
22-09-2009, 03:00 AM
Anyone hint of the previous sentence before she reply u the below sentence?
ruou nhap cuong dam noi loan = ???
anyone know what it means?

retsoor
22-09-2009, 03:01 AM
ruou nhap cuong dam noi loan = ???
anyone know what it means?

when it's from you...maybe it's a dubious sentence?

I see words like wine, rape, and rebel/rebellion, but I don't see very clearly late at night. interesting sentence, like the others you posted before :)

KangTuo
22-09-2009, 08:39 AM
Anyone hint of the previous sentence before she reply u the below sentence?

scenerio:
I was with a girl and I sms a sbf bro...

me: i know you will bring the gal to hotel lah
sbf bro: dun noe yet
me: troi, a biet e hom nay khi ton tai nao...
the girl beside me add in "ruou nhap cuong dam noi loan "

when it's from you...maybe it's a dubious sentence?

I see words like wine, rape, and rebel/rebellion, but I don't see very clearly late at night. interesting sentence, like the others you posted before :)

I see the words wine, by heart, rape... but cannot make out the sentence
The gal beside me dunno how to traslate as she only speaks tieng viet.

jackbl
22-09-2009, 09:40 AM
I go to vdict to find each words and they joined up to be "Liquor add force dare say disorder".... Meaning asking the sbf bro to Drink liquor to be more daring so that can do messy thing????

Words w/o the signal is difficult to translate if we dun know the language well. Can some of the native speaker help this out? Thanks :D :p

the girl beside me add in "ruou nhap cuong dam noi loan "

VietnamLover
22-09-2009, 12:06 PM
ruou nhap cuong dam noi loan = ???
anyone know what it means?

rượu nhập cưỡng dâm nổi loạn.
Alcohol rapes rebel.

KangTuo, is that woman from South Vietnam?

KangTuo
22-09-2009, 12:10 PM
rượu nhập cưỡng dâm nổi loạn.
Alcohol rapes rebel.

KangTuo, is that woman from South Vietnam?

yes. she is from south.
what would she mean by "Alcohol rapes rebel"... :confused::confused:

VietnamLover
22-09-2009, 12:37 PM
yes. she is from south.
what would she mean by "Alcohol rapes rebel"... :confused::confused:

I am not really sure what she actually meant. Let me ask my Vietnamese friends for their confirmation.

KangTuo
22-09-2009, 05:14 PM
the girl beside me add in "ruou nhap cuong dam noi loan "

sorry for all the trouble... i miss out 1 word :p

ruou nhap tam cuong dam noi loan


I go to vdict to find each words and they joined up to be "Liquor add force dare say disorder"....

rượu nhập cưỡng dâm nổi loạn.
Alcohol rapes rebel.

I also only make it out the meaning word by word...

rượu = alcohol
nhap = ?
tam = ?
cưỡng dâm = to rape; to violate (a girl or woman)
nổi loạn = Rebel, revolt

Santaclaws
23-09-2009, 12:37 AM
appreciate if anyone can help me translate this to vietnamese

"without you, i've lost my motivation to learn vietnamese"

thanks :)

jackbl
23-09-2009, 02:10 AM
1. Daily Greeting

Chao e! E khoe kg? An gi chua? Dang lam gi vay?
Hello! How are u? Eat anything already? Wat are u doing?

Other than "CHAO e", you can use:
Xin chao/Chao=Hello
Chao Buoi Sang/Chieu/Toi=Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening

Ngu day chua? An com chua? Doi bung kg?
Wake up already? Eat rice already? Are u hungry?

hom nay em the nao?
how are you today?

anh khoe
I am well.

Anh binh thuong
I m as usual, normal

con em?
And you?

Alo, e dang o dau? Dang lam gi?
Hello, where are u now? What are u doing?

Answers:
o nha = at home
o khach san = at hotel
o cho = at market
o ngoai (duong) = at outside (road)
o chůa = at temple
o cho lam = at working place
o trung tâm buôn bán } shopping centre
o trung tâm thương mại }


Em co nho anh kg? A nho e nhieu lam! May ngay nay kg gap em, a rat buon.
Do u miss me? I miss u alot! These few days didnt meet u, I very sad


2.Wishing Good day/nite

Chuc em ngu ngon! Co giac mo dep!
Wish u good night! Have a nice dream!

Ngu som nhe!
Sleep early!

Dem nay em di ngu di...em se gap anh trong giac mo nhe
Go to sleep this night...you will meet me in your dream

Chuc a 1 ngay moi co that nhieu niem vui, hanh phuc va gap nhieu may man
Wish u a new day have really many joys, happiness and many lucks

3.Time

Toi/Dem nay= Tonight
Hom/Bữa nay= Today
Now= bây giờ, giờ đây, hiện nay, ngŕy nay

lovesprout
23-09-2009, 08:39 AM
appreciate if anyone can help me translate this to vietnamese

"without you, i've lost my motivation to learn vietnamese"

thanks :)

Khong co em thi anh bi mat le de hoc tieng viet nua.

Here, I change "motivation" to "reason (le)".

jackbl
23-09-2009, 12:28 PM
This 2 weeks not recommend to go hcmc for tour :(

Record high flood threatens HCM City
===========================================
VietNamNet Bridge – Floods are on the rise, submerging many streets in HCM City since September 21.

Many roads in District 2, District 8, Binh Thanh and Phu Nhuan districts have been flooded up to 40cm depth.

The Hydrometeorology Forecast Station of the Southern Region said that the water level measured at the Phu An station in the Saigon River was 1.40m at 6.30, September 21. Floods are expected exceed 1.42m on September 22 evening, the highest level so far.

The HCM City Flood and Storm Control Steering Board has asked some hydropower plants like Tri An, Thac Mo, Cam Don and Srok Phu Mieng to not discharge water to diminish flood for HCM City.

It is forecast that the flood risk will last until September 23 with peak areas of concern from 4-8am and from 4-7.30pm everyday.

The areas most prone to floods are includes wards in district 12, Thu Duc, Go Vap, Binh Thanh, Binh Chanh, Cu Chi and Hooc Mon districts.

VietNamNet/Tien Phong

retsoor
23-09-2009, 01:14 PM
So I post on Facebook

ai đi chơi súng phun nước?

(anyone come to play with waterguns?)
I get a few replies, the best one was this one:

:D Yes.
Meet u soon.
Time: Oct.
Place: Langkawi.
We'll play with ur gun :D and water :D

gotta love girls...so sweet :)

jackbl
23-09-2009, 04:18 PM
Why friends ask “Are you getting any extra benefit?”
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VietNamNet Bridge – Whenever government employees can’t live on their salary, they have to “calculate” and “eat on the sly,” according to readers who shared their opinion on VietNamNet’s forum on administrative reform.

Hundreds of readers have now sent their opinions to VietNamNet ‘s Administrative Reform Forum. Many comment that it is impossible for government employees to support their families by salary alone. The result, they say, is that these officials have to “calculate” and seek every way to compensate for the inadequacy of their pay.

Officials who have worked for the Government a dozen years or more told VietNamNet that they never dare to dream of buying a house or a car on their starvation wages. Others said that it’s obvious that government employees don’t live by their salary, and commented that “many people are willing to pay tens of millions of dong to become a government employee”.

Therefore, renovating procedures by cutting down and simplifying formalities is tantamount to pruning the twigs at the top of the tree (papers), not chopping away at the roots (personnel), analysed reader Phan Bao Lam from HCM City.

Nguyen Duc Hung, a masters degree holder and a government employee in the city of Hai Phong, said that his salary is 1.5 million dong ($85) per month, not enough to support himself. Phong said he is “lucky” because he lives with his parents and doesn’t have a girlfriend, so his living expenses are low.

To survive as virtuous government employees, young people like Hung have to ask for support from their parents. If they want to get married and build their own house, they have to spend their parents’ money or they have to “calculate”.

Reader Toan Thang from the northern mountainous province of Lang Son complained: “I’m a top official of a ward in Lang Son City. I have 10 years of experience but my salary is only 1.6 million dong ($90). How can I live on that pay in this current situation?”

Many readers frankly said that they want to work for state agencies to have stable jobs but to earn their living, they have to “calculate.”

Reader Bui Quang Anh from Tuyen Quang province, who worked for nine years as a government employee, said that because of low salary, government employees have to “calculate.” Where they can “calculate”? The answer is from administrative procedures.

Quang wrote: “The more cumbersome procedures are and the more people that are involved in them, the better it is for officials. If a task can be accomplished in one day by only one employee, but he is allowed five days to do it, he can leave it for five days while investing the time in seeking money for themselves.”

“I think the state needs to have a proper mechanism for government employees so they can support their families by their salary so they don’t have to ‘calculate’. Freed from the need to ‘calculate’, they will focus their mind on the job instead of harassing or raising difficulties for the people,” Quang added.

Prevent administrative formalities from becoming a “source of benefit”

Many readers wrote that the state is paying starvation wages to its employees, which starves virtuous officials while others “calculate,” resulting in broken rules.

Hoang Son from the central province of Thanh Hoa, who quit his prestigious by ill-paid job as a university lecturer to go into business, suggested: “We must immediately reconsider the way we appoint government employees. Only skilled and energetic people should become officials.”

Son called the current state machinery “cumbersome. It must be narrowed and streamlined so the state has enough funds to pay alaries appropriate for capable government employees.”

“Administrative formalities are not to blame. The problem is the people who manage them,” Nguyen Duc Vinh from Hanoi analysed.

He said the first objective should be renovating man’s nature, choosing worthy government employees, and paying them a decent salary.

Reader Nguyen Thong Long wrote: “We’ll know that the problem of ‘administrative formalities’ has been solved when the relatives and friends of government employees no longer ask them ‘do you have any extra benefit from that job?’ Then we can be assured that government employees can live well enough on their salary and their thoughts will incline to the public benefit. While they are hungry, they must try to eat on the sly.”

When the day comes that government employees no longer consider administrative formalities as a “tool” to earn money, they will seek to simplify them, Son added.

Nguyen Trieu Dan from Gia Lam district, Hanoi complained: “We must streamline the system of government employment. At my office, officials sip tea from morning to noon. After lunch, they sleep until 2-3 pm”.

Many readers pointed out that all government employees complain that they are paid starvation wages but a few of them quit their jobs.

“Many people try to hold their position at state agencies to have untaxing jobs, wait for promotions and to harass the people,” write Nguyen Hung from the Czech Republic.

A reader signing himself ‘patriot_vn’ from HCM City wrote that most government employees have never lived by their wages because each of them springs from a privileged class in society.

Thus, it is difficult to trim away any formalities because one immediately bumps against the “roots.”

As the man in charge of the reform effort, Nguyen Xuan Phuc, chief of the Prime Minister’s Office, put it, “Formalities may be reduced but if government officials still harass the people, the people will still suffer.”

Le Nhung

Spectrum17
23-09-2009, 05:34 PM
2.Wishing Good day/nite

Chuc em ngu ngon! Co giac mo dep!
Wish u good night! Have a nice dream!

Ngu som nhe!
Sleep early!

Dem nay em di ngu di...em se gap anh trong giac mo nhe
Go to sleep this night...you will meet me in your dream

Chuc a 1 ngay moi co that nhieu niem vui, hanh phuc va gap nhieu may man
Wish u a new day have really many joys, happiness and many lucks



Bro jackbl. Thanks man!! Please keep posting. I believe many bros will find this helpful. I am going to use this tonight!!
!&!!

jackbl
24-09-2009, 04:07 AM
Vietnam has much to teach the world
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In Vietnam, history is used as a reminder of why Vietnamese should be proud of their independence and that their destiny lies in their own hands.


It might be possible to live in a country for three years, spend all your time thinking about it, and not be affected by the place. Some expats do - they float above the country, observing it dispassionately. But I've not found that possible for me. And in the case of my posting to Vietnam, it has been impossible. Living in Vietnam has changed me and my perspectives in a way that I know will enrich my professional and family life.

As many other British expats will tell you, coming to work in Vietnam requires you to completely change your working style. In the UK, we approach many business issues via logic and analysis. When we finally get a meeting with someone very senior at which we can put forward our case, we need to be conscious of that senior person's limited time and set out our objectives and our business case very quickly. In Vietnam, I had to turn this approach on its head. To dive straight into business without first talking about issues of family, weather, how I am adjusting to life in Vietnam would be considered rude. Instead, I had to start focusing on the important elements of a personal relationship.

And this taught me a hugely valuable professional lesson. In any negotiation, you need to know where the other person is coming from, what makes them tick and what their key interests are. That way, it will be easier to find a mutually beneficial solution to any business problem. By taking time - as the Vietnamese do - to understand the person across the table from me rather than just focusing on the overwhelming logic of my case, I know I will be a better negotiator. I learned this from those Vietnamese I worked with. I had the honor of working with some extremely professional and clever officials and they taught me so much - if they read this, they will know who they are!

Thanh Nien told me they were interested in whether I thought Vietnam had anything to teach the rest of the world. I would say yes, without hesitation. I'd highlight two things. The first is how to wear a difficult history. Many tourists visit - as I did in 1998 - and come away amazed at how little bitterness there seems to be towards nations who have fought against Vietnam. Living in Vietnam has allowed me to understand more about this. The Vietnamese wear their history very well. Unlike in some other nations, it is not usually used as an excuse for the shortcomings of a government or society, as an opt-out clause for not taking charge of their own destiny. It is used as a reminder of why Vietnamese should be proud of their independence and that their destiny lies in their own hands.

The second thing Vietnam could spread to the world is the passion Vietnamese have for self-improvement. Everyone is striving to make their tomorrow and that of their kids’ better than theirs today. That means everyone is doing something to upgrade their skills, taking charge of their own future rather than sitting around and waiting for something to be handed to them. There are many people in highly developed countries - including my own - who could learn from this approach, to the benefit of themselves and of society as a whole.

What are my hopes for Vietnam's future? I think the most interesting challenge for Vietnam will be how to promote and harness the creativity and dynamism of the people, keeping opportunities for betterment and for achievement open to all. Achieving this will require courage and far-sightedness and a commitment to allowing circulation of ideas and innovation. But if they do, and given the other amazing resources Vietnam has, I'm really confident that I will see Vietnam's prosperity and international standing grow yet further.

And finally, what will I remember most about Vietnam? The smell of bun cha, the sheer noise created when my Vietnamese friends get together for lunch, my friends' senses of humor as they gently tease each other, and me! The chaos and the noise and the ingenuity of Vietnamese people finding their own solutions to everyday problems - many of them involving hair-raising levels of risk to my "health and safety conscious" European eyes. The ease with which I could strike up a conversation with anyone I met, a conversation that was bound at some point to end up in smiles and laughter. Yes, Vietnam changed me, and for the better!

By Kara Owen*

*Kara Owen is deputy head of the UK mission in Vietnam 2006-2009.

Hurricane88
24-09-2009, 11:37 AM
sorry for all the trouble... i miss out 1 word :p

ruou nhap tam cuong dam noi loan

I also only make it out the meaning word by word...

rượu = alcohol
nhap = ?
tam = ?
cưỡng dâm = to rape; to violate (a girl or woman)
nổi loạn = Rebel, revolt

According to my long hair dictionary....it means "wine make people mad of sex".......:)

RJ2004
24-09-2009, 01:12 PM
酒后乱性 la.....

retsoor
24-09-2009, 01:23 PM
According to my long hair dictionary....it means "wine make people mad of sex".......:)

your long haired dictionary is no doubt right :)

jackbl
25-09-2009, 02:23 AM
Chaos and calm on the roads of HCMC
=======================================

What more can be said about Ho Chi Minh City traffic and driving behavior that has not already been said?


From a westerner’s point of view, motorcyclists often do what seem like the silliest of things: cutting directly in front of turning cars and buses; so on, and so on.

But on closer observation and reflection, there can sometimes be a gracefulness (and graciousness) underlying what at first looks to be slow-motion anarchy.

Miraculously, rarely does anyone actually strike another vehicle. Somehow, most riders and drivers instinctively know the precise millisecond to back off and give way to another.

Impressively, almost everyone keeps moving forward all the time, however slowly. Rarely is a fist shaken or a blow exchanged, despite what can look like the most exasperating of driving conditions that would lead to severe “road rage” in many other countries.

So this is the paradox, to me, as a foreigner living with HCMC traffic. As the traffic volumes continually increase, as the proportion of cars on the road grow (well beyond the capacity of the infrastructure to support them), as the pollution and noise and general chaos seem to get ever worse, the people who use the roads mostly remain serene and devoid of any obvious frustration.

This impresses me as a foreigner living in HCMC, and I have come to realize that although on one level these are just some observations about traffic and driving behavior, on another level they may provide fascinating clues into the Vietnamese psyche – into a culture that has seen so much and learned to deal with so many hardships and hurdles with good grace and patience, and still keep finding a way forward at all times.

I talk to Vietnamese friends about the traffic and whether it’s ever going to get any better, and interestingly most seem resigned to accepting that traffic conditions never seem to improve much overall.

New roads and bridges get built, but the road works associated with them seem interminable and for whatever reason the various different works are not properly coordinated to minimize disturbance to motorists.

Then at the end of it all people see that the work was not done properly anyway and so the “finished” road or bridge does not quite do the job it was designed to do.

The new road or bridge does not include a footpath allowing for safe pedestrian access.

Or a road does not provide any safe turning area for a kilometer or more, forcing motorists to drive much further than they want before they can turn around and come back to the location they want to reach.

So much waste of fuel and time, so much extra pollution that could be avoided.

But while this kind of thing can frustrate foreigners, I don’t see much sign of it frustrating my Vietnamese friends and colleagues. They accept these things as facts of life.

One day I hope the people of HCMC and Hanoi will get the advanced public transport systems that great modern cities deserve in the 21st century, releasing much of this traffic pressure.

But in the meantime I know my Vietnamese friends and colleagues will continue to deal with the realities of relentless traffic chaos and disruption with enormous patience and good grace – and a serene confidence that they will somehow always reach their destination safely each time.

By Graeme Domm*

*Graeme Domm is director of communications for RMIT International University Vietnam

leecs
26-09-2009, 03:51 AM
Hi! Can anybody help me translate this? Thanks alot. I appreciate it.

anh co biet la em rat la so ai noi tieng yeu em. vi nhieu nguoi xao voi em nen em so. thoi gian se tra loi cho anh biet ok

Em hieu. that su em rat thich anh khi nao anh can em em se den ben anh ok

Khi nao anh can den em anh dt cho em ok. chuc anh luon luon vui ve

lovesprout
26-09-2009, 10:54 AM
Hi! Can anybody help me translate this? Thanks alot. I appreciate it.


anh co biet la em rat la so ai noi tieng yeu em. vi nhieu nguoi xao voi em nen em so. thoi gian se tra loi cho anh biet ok

Do you know that what I am afraid of is someone says (he) loves me. Because a lot of people lie with me so I scare. Time will answer (your questions).

Em hieu. that su em rat thich anh khi nao anh can em em se den ben anh ok

I understand. It is true that I really like you. When you need me, I will be by your side.

Khi nao anh can den em anh dt cho em ok. chuc anh luon luon vui ve

When you need me, you call me, ok? wish you always happy.

leecs
26-09-2009, 01:16 PM
Thanks, lovesprout for your help.

JaViEr84
26-09-2009, 10:43 PM
1h45pm roi con may tieng nua la di an toi voi man, toi nay han' meeting nen minh se ko bi lam fien nua

Can anyone help me with the above translation?
Also is there any good Vietnamese translator to english online..?
Paiseh newbie here .. recently dating a vietnamese gal..

KangTuo
27-09-2009, 07:32 AM
1h45pm roi con may tieng nua la di an toi voi man, toi nay han' meeting nen minh se ko bi lam fien nua

Can anyone help me with the above translation?
Also is there any good Vietnamese translator to english online..?
Paiseh newbie here .. recently dating a vietnamese gal..

1:45pm already. still have a few hours is to go and eat dinner with Man, tonight Han meeting therefore i will not be bothered.

See MASTER jackbl signature for the link to the online translator, vdict.

AdGuy
27-09-2009, 01:19 PM
[QUOTE=JaViEr84;4144060][COLOR="Magenta"]
Also is there any good Vietnamese translator to english online..?
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You have already found it :D

JaViEr84
27-09-2009, 03:09 PM
Hi bro Kang Tuo ,

Thanks for the translation....
Vdict is not as good as i used before its still unable to translate more than 60% of the words i pasted on it..

Do vietnamese gals of age 24 reallly like their bf to be more romantic and know what they think , make them happy.. cos i have difficulty guessing which word my gf say if its really real or just words on mouth heart not the same..cos got a time she angry me not quarrel as its on her one sided angry and say only want to meet me 1 time in a week ,as she still angry i just say ok ( dun want to argue or begged her, scared she think i too sticky).. but turn out she wanted mi to say why can only meet 1 time (something like the opp of what i did) and from then she started saying i am boring guy , dunno gals' heart.. MY ex (also viet) one turns out to be quite opp to her , say what she mean and dun like me to b so sticky ...

I just think my experience in dealing with vietnamese gals is not enough...
Hope bros here can bao rong bao rong me..Teach me more..
Xiao di zai chi yi xie..

jackbl
27-09-2009, 03:14 PM
How? Experience yourself will be more fruitful :cool:
Hope bros here can bao rong bao rong me..Teach me more.. Xiao di zai chi yi xie..

JaViEr84
27-09-2009, 03:33 PM
Thanks bro jacklbl for the advise..

Due to some language problem yesterday in english , she angry at me again..
She only reply sms in a sop manner .. which is diff from the other times she angry me (norm she will off hp or ignore me) but still will not pick my call. cos she work night shift.. this morning i just suprise her at her work place want to an sang with her but she gets so angry( i mean see her face so fierce, that i so scare to say anything more to explain on the misunderstanding in our conversation) that she ignore me and say u tink my free time is for u?? so she just went home dun talk to me .. i just sent her back sms her that i need to go and work(i managing events thats y sunday work). she also reply as usual (in a sop manner).. ask her if she wants to an toi with me later , she just say too tired want to rest more see me another day..

sorry bros had to see my nonsense / rubbish here.. just a bit stress and loss at what i should do , should i just dont do anything at all let her cool down a few days till she finishes her night shift on tues dun contact her till wed or do i need to do something.. no one to talk to or share with so i decided to just write down here.

Paiseh paiseh...

Sha_Gua75
27-09-2009, 05:48 PM
sorry bros had to see my nonsense / rubbish here.. just a bit stress and loss at what i should do , should i just dont do anything at all let her cool down a few days till she finishes her night shift on tues dun contact her till wed or do i need to do something.. no one to talk to or share with so i decided to just write down here.

Paiseh paiseh...

Dont bother about her...dont contact her...throw her into cold palace and she will be back...but the question is can you tahan to do that?

haha_123
27-09-2009, 07:49 PM
[QUOTE=JaViEr84;4145708]

Due to some language problem yesterday in english , she angry at me again..
She only reply sms in a sop manner .. which is diff from the other times she angry me (norm she will off hp or ignore me) but still will not pick my call. cos she work night shift.. this morning i just suprise her at her work place want to an sang with her but she gets so angry( i mean see her face so fierce, that i so scare to say anything more to explain on the misunderstanding in our conversation) that she ignore me and say u tink my free time is for u?? so she just went home dun talk to me .. i just sent her back sms her that i need to go and work(i managing events thats y sunday work). she also reply as usual (in a sop manner).. ask her if she wants to an toi with me later , she just say too tired want to rest more see me another day..

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Your gal is acting like a SPOILT BRAT!!!:mad:
DUMP HER IMMEDIATELY!!!
Move on the next target. No point feeling moody over a spoilt brat.

Chang tong bu ru duan tong...

jackbl
28-09-2009, 01:01 AM
Seeing them lidat, makes me think that spore children is alot more fortunate, got parents driving them to and fro school :eek:

Children cross borders, rivers to get an education
================================================== ==
Vietnamese children living in Cambodia cross a river to return home from school.
Nguyen Thi Diem has to row a boat across Cambodia border twice a day to get her children to school and and back.


Many Vietnamese families moved to Koh Thum District in Kandal Province of the neighboring country many years ago as they found it easier to subsist on fishing and farming there.

However, the children do not know the local language, so more than 500 of them travel back to Vietnam every day, crossing many rivers to attend classes in An Giang Province.

Diem said she feels weary and sad and every time she sees such scenes.

Diep Hoang Nang, an eighth-grader at the Khanh An Junior High in An Giang, said there’s a school near his house in Cambodia but it only teaches subjects in the Khmer language.

Nguyen Van Tien, whose children also cross the border to school every day, said “The children only need to learn to read and write. That would be an achievement already.”

Many children do quit school right after learning to read and write to help their parents make a living, said Hinh Quoc Khinh, president of the B Primary School in An Giang.

But some children have left entered college and done well, Nang said, adding they are the examples for others to follow. From them, “we learn to escape poverty.”

By sending her daughter to school back home, Huynh Thi My Huong only hoped to get her literate, but Le My Duyen has performed so well that her parents have agreed to keep her on.

The ninth-grader at Khanh Ha Junior High said she would try to win admission to college.

Le Van Tam, vice president of the school, said half of the students getting good grades are the Vietnamese children living in Cambodia.

Tam said poverty and the traveling problems have made many children quit school, but “once they’ve managed to overcome the problems, they study very hard.”

Local authorities in Khanh An Province have arranged with pier operators on both sides to carry the children for free.

Yet Tam expressed concern that the journeys on boat are not very safe for the children.

Reported by Tien Trinh

JaViEr84
28-09-2009, 01:24 AM
Thanks bro haha_123 & bro sha gua for the valuable advise..

Not sure if it came too late or just nice .. Just now in the noon 4+.. she message me ask mi where i am ., i also gong gong tell her where i was that time and she message me say "ok enjoy your day".. then suddenly something struck my mind the next second thinking "she like tat ask is it she want to see if i around her place and if i am she will meet me..) so i was near her house that time but still need 10 min(by mrt) to reach so i tot she want to see me so i rush over(by mrt , just 2 stops away).. and when i reached i message her again say " actually i am at your house downstairs park seating.." , the next thing she did was to come down .. i tot finally ok.. but was not to be... more like a confrontation ...

bla bla say i ask her to meet alot that she use all her free time whether on working day or off day.. Now she say i make her tired and feels i am boring and stupid dunno alot of things (not sure if its due to night shift bad tempered.)

SAy now she see mi face she hate mi so much[ on fri still say see me although tired also not tired], Say i start to control her only after one month if continue how., .nvr let her do her things to study english 1st and possible go study diploma work in Singapore and I nvr do my things then our future how if we keep on meeting like that ..

say like that have bf then better dun have bf better since it makes her tired …(we nvr really sort out things like talk reason in a session like solving problem always only she angry I pacify her next day then everything settle. Always small things)

Actually i am going to ask her in a few days if we meet 2 times a week on her free and not tired day how is it but since she brought up today i straight tell her ... nvr giv reply.. quiet for 15 min say if we meet like this until she too tired and sick ow.. she say I take care of myself u take care of your self.. she say I should know what she did to her ex.-bf once think canot work out , she will not bother bout him no matter how hard he try to patch up.. (as bro haha say chang tong bu ru duan tong , by the way she had told her family , friends even ex bf bout me.. I even met her room mates have some small eating session with beer at their house for 2 times)… I ask her if I have the chance to do what I say early bout the meeting up time… she say I should not be so stupid to understand her meaning.. I ask the same thing again( dun dare to ask if she is initiating a break up) she say dunno just dun want to see me now.. so now I not sure becos hot tempered cos really face black although nvr look at me, like in a spite like that want to see if I will do what I say in future or is she saying its over.. cos she nvr say clear to me.. she also nvr bring the things I gave her as gift return me cos she did that to her ex as she mention b4..

Then she had her dinner nearby with me sitting at the same table eating the same thing only thing is she dun let me pay for her food. Silence all the way.. after I eat finish I told her I got some thing on I go off now.. she also stand up walk off to her company start work an hour early..( of cos I walk another direction diff from her but still can see her go to her company..Till now I sent her 1 message like “I reach home already hope u work ok later” just now at 10pm .. , she nvr bother to send me the sop messages she sent this morning..

For the “she angry me” not so serious of 4 times. I always appear the next day around her house or Morning at her workplace after she is angry with me to apologise in viet of cos and bring her some things like what juice she like I go make them myself deliver it myself to her .. but she say her friends start to feel I not good like appearing a few times after quarrel without notifying her..(their so called sudden appear) she say her friend say I meet her so much must as well get a house let her live in there I take care of her…( damn I even treat them eat whenever they are with her during breakfast or outing)

We are only together a month( i suppose its what its called honey moon period) we fall so deep so fast becos i like her a lot even more than my ex and she also feel the same as me as she feel she likes me more than her ex (she told me one during a sensual talk at park) that I keep meeting her everyday except 4 days total like I go overseas or work..) during this period she also nvr even complain that i meet her too many times make her tired.. most times still say meet me already not feel tired..

Haizz at a loss now dunno what to do now to get through this tide ..

Please ignore this thread if bros out here dun like what I type in this thread

KangTuo
28-09-2009, 09:43 AM
Not sure if it came too late or just nice .. Just now in the noon 4+.. she message me ask mi where i am ., i also gong gong tell her where i was that time and she message me say "ok enjoy your day".. then suddenly something struck my mind the next second thinking "she like tat ask is it she want to see if i around her place and if i am she will meet me..)

I dunno if this viet gal of your is a WL/student. But when a viet gal wanna dump you, they can totally ignore you or come out 101 reasons. Especially with the younger generation viet gals. Their thinking are not as traditional as those in the late 20s/ early 30s liao. Move on, let both of you have a breather. Don't look for her anymore. If she wanna meet up she will tell you to meet her.

by the way, when she ask you where you are or what are you doing, it is just an SOP sms. It does not mean that she wanna meet you. You think tooo much bro.

KangTuo
28-09-2009, 11:30 AM
I went out with a gal yesterday. After sending the gal back home, I join some SBF bro in echo. The gal also know that I go drinking elsewhere and to hug gal.
We had the following sms.

Me: e voi toi nha, e met kg? e co di lam kg? (you reach home, are you tired? you got go work?)
Gal: e o nha hom nay e kg co di lam. a dang o dau vay (I am at home, today never go work. Where are you?)
Me: A di gap ban a uong bia o cho khac (I go meet friend to drink beer at othe place)
Gal: Lai di nua roi. chac con nho do moi dt roi a di chua gi (????????)

I dunno what she mean in the last sms. Any bro to help?

Kualalumpur
28-09-2009, 11:41 AM
bla bla say i ask her to meet alot that she use all her free time whether on working day or off day.. Now she say i make her tired and feels i am boring and stupid dunno alot of things (not sure if its due to night shift bad tempered.)

SAy now she see mi face she hate mi so much[ on fri still say see me although tired also not tired], Say i start to control her only after one month if continue how., .nvr let her do her things to study english 1st and possible go study diploma work in Singapore and I nvr do my things then our future how if we keep on meeting like that ..

say like that have bf then better dun have bf better since it makes her tired

Actually i am going to ask her in a few days if we meet 2 times a week on
Then she had her dinner nearby with me sitting at the same table eating the same thing only thing is she dun let me pay for her food. Silence all the way..

For the “she angry me” not so serious of 4 times. I always appear the next
day around her house or Morning at her workplace after she is angry with me to apologise in viet of cos and bring her some things like what juice she like I go make them myself deliver it myself to her .. but she say her friends start to feel I not good like appearing a few times after quarrel without notifying her..



DROP HER QUICKLY! In the parts I quoted are the exact replica, sentences, and behavior I have heard when a gal was not reliable at all. Got 2 like that, first one I fell in the trap, and there was much more stories coming, second one started the same, I dropped.

That kind of women are extremely possessive, and love to make the men feel guilty. The 'you are stupid', 'you'll break my life as I cannot work/study because you make me tired', 'you are boring', 'better to have no man in my life' and such things I have heard it countless times, it is plain bullshit, but the girls who do like that are always sweet looking and extremely dangerous.

One tip, when she is angry, you have to be angry, not shy, sad, or caring like crazy. Or you are lost. She is angry because you come to her house to visit her? You are angry because she welcomes you like that where you spent the time and energy to come. If she does not understand, turn and leave instant, don't try to discuss. She is playing a dirty control game on you.

When they tell you you don't know a lot of things, it's a pride for them to lower you, show that they have no esteem for you, and last maybe she has a boyfriend or this kind of things, so it makes her have a very big laugh inside :mad:

One sentence I have heard a couple of time, angry girlfriend means beating wife... There are a lot of hysterical gals in Vietnam you really do not want to spend your life with, see the other thread I posted in, You imagine REALLY spending 10 years with a girl that will become older and less attractive, which is normal and accepted, BUT still will be angry at you, say that you are a shit, a looser, a stupid asshole, you make her tired, you are boring? If you are boring, for a Vietnamese, it means she warns you she can go out with a boyfriend that will be funny, trust me. I do not see any future between you and her if she is like that, dump her.

lovesprout
28-09-2009, 12:52 PM
Gal: Lai di nua roi. chac con nho do moi dt roi a di chua gi (????????)

I dunno what she mean in the last sms. Any bro to help?

I just guess. The original sentence should be "Gal: Lai di nua roi. chac con nho do moi di roi a di choi gi"

"You go again. Certainly you still miss that (place) so you go. You go to play what?"

If I am correct, the girl must be very drunk at that time. hahaha.

JaViEr84
28-09-2009, 01:15 PM
thanks for the reply bro KT and KL ...

point noted bro KT.

she is working in factory which i will not name whose clients are hp , mac , sony all these famous IT makers..as an operator , was on 2 yr wp. fnish one yr le.. left one more yr.. thats why she intend to go for IELTS cert and went on to diploma , say if she do not study her parents will want her to go back.. btw she is a uni grad in vietnam and was a certified teacher there... had been in teaching line over there for 1-2 yrs before she wants a change from her teaching job , went for the interview and is 1 of the 80 ppl to get this job as an operator to come to singapore

anyway she did reply another sop message during her break at wee hours of 1+am yesterday prior to my 10 pm message i did not reply ... i dun want her to think i am still awake waiting for her..(i dun want her to tink i am a freak or si chan lan da)... i did message her in the morning after her work to say morning + some caring messages.. but she did not reply with sop message till now..

Actually i am blaming myself for doing too much and seeing her too much that she find i am controlling her life and find seeing me is tired thing (actually blaming myself for messing it up ,should have discuss the meeting up issue last week with her) .. but what bro kl say is true .. I am also tired as i am the one who always go to her house as i know her free time is less than mine and she needs to get home early cos also got other room mates living together to prevent shi feri complain her late go back..thats why even if we go anywhere i make sure i sent her safely back home in the night always before midnight .

My job is IT support sometimes no calls can be quite free can chat with her online and i nvr told her i am tired before.. she tot my job is easy and not tired one than her operator job truth is i just do not want to show i am "weak" i nvr told her when i busy she jus dunno ow tired it can be to carry all the pcs monitors ups around and setup.. haizz.

Really wish i can talk to someone rather than hiding it in my heart. this time round i felt like 10 times worse than my prev one of 3 yrs when we had some thing like this.. totally like drained out of energy... now i am very loss and later after work i do not know where to go , i just do not want to go home and b alone by myself.. haha .. very silly of me... i just dunno why my heart is powerful than my mind as logically i should b heartless more and just bo chup her but my heart keep telling to do the opp. I will just see ow it goes see if she is really so heartless or just in a spite of anger.. now i am telling myself if she refuse to meet me within a month , then i tink its all over ..

deptrai4u
28-09-2009, 01:17 PM
DROP HER QUICKLY! In the parts I quoted are the exact replica, sentences, and behavior I have heard when a gal was not reliable at all. Got 2 like that, first one I fell in the trap, and there was much more stories coming, second one started the same, I dropped.

dump her.

the formula to get worthy use of ur time with Viet girls is very simple... you do a bit of baiting at first but the rest of the way they have to be the one to run after you. If they do not do that, be reminded that there are a lot of other pretty viet girls more willing to take her place.

I am not saying that we should be bastard here in any way... especially if you are willing to have a meaningful relationship with a worthy viet girl, you should choose carefully and dun be another hopeless sucker Singapore Boy that get abused by unreasonable Singapore girls.

The beauty of choosing a Viet girl is that they tends to naturally take good care of you, be very obedient to your wimps and wishes, basically pamper you to your death and make you feel like a overgrown baby boy. But if you are not getting anything close to what I had just described, then you better dump her and move on to the next one.

But if you are like most guys who are out to prey and fuck-and-forget type, then again.. you should move on. But from your post, you seems like the mussy-fuzzy type of wimpy goody boy (which you should snap out of that as quickly as possible and time to make women realise that its a men's world).

Either case.... my last 2 words for you ... same as the other post .... dump her.

deptrai4u
28-09-2009, 01:33 PM
thanks for the reply bro KT and KL ...

point noted bro KT.

she is working in factory which i will not name

Actually i am blaming myself for doing too much and seeing her too much that she find i am controlling her life and find seeing me is tired thing (actually blaming myself for messing it up ,should have discuss the meeting up issue last week with her) .. but what bro kl say is true .. I am also tired as i am the one who always go to her house as i know her free time is less than mine and she needs to get home early cos also got other room mates living together to prevent shi feri complain her late go back..thats why even if we go anywhere i make sure i sent her safely back home in the night always before midnight .

if she refuse to meet me within a month , then i tink its all over ..

This is another trial for you.. but you should really consider enrolling urself in a course that says "Everything that you should know about treating a girl RIGHT that your mother had not taught you!"

So far from your posting.. it seems that you are the goody good mommy boy kind... and you also just beginning to realise that you have been doing everything your mother has taught you about treating a girl and it has gotten you no-where so far and instead the effects are direct opposite.

All you think is that I want to proof to the girl that I am a good guy and serious about her and I want to give her all my love and everything... if you keep doing that... you will keep being dumped very quickly....

I am serious... there are such courses that teach you how to score with girls... start looking it up now.

KangTuo
28-09-2009, 01:41 PM
This is another trial for you.. but you should really consider enrolling urself in a course that says "Everything that you should know about treating a girl RIGHT that your mother had not taught you!"

I am serious... there are such courses that teach you how to score with girls... start looking it up now.

When will you start the lesson? I wanna enrol :p:D

JaViEr84
28-09-2009, 02:04 PM
bro depthrai , what u say makes sense .. anyway my mom taught me none of that as i am not close to my mom at all to discuss these issues.. i just feel that i can't hurt a gal i like in my heart that what i tink.. And yes i had told her that i am serious with her and even when she noes my parents do not like vietnamese , she is willing agree to be my gf.. she had told her parents siblings friends all about me and even wanted me to meet her siblings in hcm but air ticket to expensive for oct.. thats y cancel.. also say want to go to bangkok with me in dec for holiday when i ask her , want me to go attend a m'sia wedding of her supervisor say she not sure want to go or not but if i go she will want to go as her sup knows of me and want her to bring me along cos i always around her workplace (send her to work) .. thats y i am so smitten by her i tink.. cos i tot i finally found a girl who really loves me even i am not rich and not after any purpose to be together with me...not like my ex after s pass and pr..

anyway if this relationship really cannot makeup or workout , i tink i will not go into another one for yrs till i tink i am financially stable and smart enough to handle another gal , which i tink high chance is another viet gal cos so far only viet gals can stir my heart (might b a curse i tink) althouhg i had met some other gals for dinner all these , my current one is the 4th i met online and have dinner and is the only one who cause my heart to stir after a few meeting ups in a few days..(she also want to see me that time not only me everyday altohugh i havent jio her to b my gf)

KangTuo
28-09-2009, 02:12 PM
bro depthrai , what u say makes sense .. anyway my mom taught me none of that as i am not close to my mom at all to discuss these issues.. i just feel that i can't hurt a gal i like in my heart that what i tink.. And yes i had told her that i am serious with her and even when she noes my parents do not like vietnamese , she is willing agree to be my gf.. she had told her parents siblings friends all about me and even wanted me to meet her siblings in hcm but air ticket to expensive for oct.. thats y cancel.. also say want to go to bangkok with me in dec for holiday when i ask her , want me to go attend a m'sia wedding of her supervisor say she not sure want to go or not but if i go she will want to go as her sup knows of me and want her to bring me along cos i always around her workplace (send her to work) .. thats y i am so smitten by her i tink.. cos i tot i finally found a girl who really loves me even i am not rich and not after any purpose to be together with me...not like my ex after s pass and pr..

anyway if this relationship really cannot makeup or workout , i tink i will not go into another one for yrs till i tink i am financially stable and smart enough to handle another gal , which i tink high chance is another viet gal cos so far only viet gals can stir my heart (might b a curse i tink) althouhg i had met some other gals for dinner all these , my current one is the 4th i met online and have dinner and is the only one who cause my heart to stir after a few meeting ups in a few days..(she also want to see me that time not only me everyday altohugh i havent jio her to b my gf)

yes. please move on.
1) ticket to HCMC is never expensive.
2) work hard to be financially stable before coming out to the world and know my gals 'practically'
3) you really need to get out and know the world instead on getting to know gals via online

it is a norm for viet gal to intro their boyfriend to everyone she knows. Asking you to go HCMC, asking to attend supervisor wedding, etc is a NORM

jackbl
29-09-2009, 01:50 AM
Since when this vietnamese learning thread become a love problem thread, and u ask ppl to ignore this thread!!! Lidat when i got difficulty in understanding viet sms and seek help, nobody will come to my rescue liao...u wan me to die ha :D

Please ignore this thread if bros out here dun like what I type in this thread

jackbl
29-09-2009, 01:54 AM
Long time no see.... your opinion still as sharp as before... "1 needle see blood"

you do a bit of baiting at first but the rest of the way they have to be the one to run after you. If they do not do that, be reminded that there are a lot of other pretty viet girls more willing to take her place.

The beauty of choosing a Viet girl is that they tends to naturally take good care of you, be very obedient to your wimps and wishes, basically pamper you to your death and make you feel like a overgrown baby boy.

you seems like the mussy-fuzzy type of wimpy goody boy (which you should snap out of that as quickly as possible and time to make women realise that its a men's world).

dump her.

JaViEr84
29-09-2009, 02:33 AM
thanks bros for the replies..

she message me ask mi where i am ., i also gong gong tell her where i was that time and she message me say "ok enjoy your day".. then suddenly something struck my mind the next second thinking "she like tat ask is it she want to see if i around her place and if i am she will meet me..) so i was near her house that time but still need 10 min(by mrt) to reach so i tot she want to see me so i rush over(by mrt , just 2 stops away).. and when i reached i message her again say " actually i am at your house downstairs park seating.." ,



at 1 am i decided that i do not want her to think i am like a crazy man always waiting for her at the park so i decided to tell her the truth of the above of what happened really on sunday.. cos when i message "actually i am at your house downstairs park seating" when we had the confrontation she says i am like a crazy person make her feel like she had borrowed something from me and nvr return me..she told me.. which i felt sort of insulted when i think back at the conversation she say.. so i tink there is a need to tell her the truth .. after this message i sent another normal well wishing message..

She just sms me the sop message when i wish her happy working at her break with "thanks and good night " , seems that she will only message me at her 2nd break at 1.30 am (yesterday also roughly this time ,). i still uses the em and anh in the message..

i am wondering if she want to ignore me during the whole of the day , why still bother send sop message to me at all , i mean since she say i am hateful and she is angry at me, also thinks i am like the most crazy man she ever met then why still bother to sms me at all i mean if i were her i will totally ignore and dun bother to reply any message of this man who makes her tired , boring , angry ...

why do viet gals like to play this fishing bait thing if she dun want to be with me why cant say out straight and come clean rather than play this kind of stupid game like cat chase mouse..say u are not that stupid to dunno what i meant.. then still want to sms me the sop message (why bother if want to breakup... why ? wannt to let me know sshe still treat me as friend or want to prove to me she is a good person nvr did any ppl wrong? )

SING_IN_HCMC
29-09-2009, 12:47 PM
I went out with a gal yesterday. After sending the gal back home, I join some SBF bro in echo. The gal also know that I go drinking elsewhere and to hug gal.
We had the following sms.

Me: e voi toi nha, e met kg? e co di lam kg? (you reach home, are you tired? you got go work?)
Gal: e o nha hom nay e kg co di lam. a dang o dau vay (I am at home, today never go work. Where are you?)
Me: A di gap ban a uong bia o cho khac (I go meet friend to drink beer at othe place)
Gal: Lai di nua roi. chac con nho do moi dt roi a di chua gi (????????)

I dunno what she mean in the last sms. Any bro to help?

Go again. i'm sure that she have just called you and now you go with her?

lenz87
29-09-2009, 12:49 PM
some gals r jus not worth it

jackbl
29-09-2009, 12:49 PM
U already know that it is SOP liao, she no need to spend much time sms la, just send the already SAVE messages to u.
I think u really need to go outside and have a break. Dun let this tied u up... After 1 month of chionging and if u still missed her, then go back to her again.

then still want to sms me the sop message (why bother if want to breakup... why ? wannt to let me know sshe still treat me as friend or want to prove to me she is a good person nvr did any ppl wrong? )

jackbl
29-09-2009, 12:52 PM
Hi Sir, may i ask whether "a di chua gi= you go with her"?
Go again. i'm sure that she have just called you and now you go with her?

SING_IN_HCMC
29-09-2009, 02:25 PM
Hi Sir, may i ask whether "a di chua gi= you go with her"?

Alo sir, not exactly the same translation...that is the prob with TV. Anyway, the full word for word transaltion is:



Lai di nua roi (Go again). chac (sure) con nho do (that girl) moi dt (call)roi a di chua (should be "chu" - do you go gi

Am still learning TV from my tu tien..hhhaaha. Have learnt a lot from here in my initial days in HCMC, even up to now. Tks to you and all the seniors!!

Hurricane88
29-09-2009, 02:50 PM
why do viet gals like to play this fishing bait thing if she dun want to be with me why cant say out straight and come clean rather than play this kind of stupid game like cat chase mouse..say u are not that stupid to dunno what i meant.. then still want to sms me the sop message (why bother if want to breakup... why ? wannt to let me know sshe still treat me as friend or want to prove to me she is a good person nvr did any ppl wrong? )

hi, after reading all your posts here...I think you are what some bro here mentioned a Sin wimp...very weak and undecisive...alot of bro had mentioned this but you just drag on...I hope you dun mind because that's the way you had written...bro jackbl had mentioned this is the wrong thread to post this...I suggest you post it in the thread "Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner"....before you start posting, I suggest you read the entire thread to get a better understanding how to handle Vn gf or spouse...also read the recent boss comment on Sin men not wearing their trousers in that thread...good luck to you...:)

jackbl
30-09-2009, 10:55 AM
Those visiting Central VN please take note!

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(2009-09-30)

热带风暴“凯萨娜”上星期六挟带暴雨吹袭菲律宾吕宋岛,夺走至少246条人命和造成187多万人无家可归。 “凯萨娜”在肆虐后,昨天向西横渡南中国海,并在把威力增强到台风级之后,猛扑越南中部,导致顺化和岘港等 城镇泛滥成灾,一些地区发生土崩,已有23人死亡。越南当局在“凯萨娜”登陆前,动员大批军警,紧急撤离1 7多万人。在越南中部古都顺化市郊第01号高速公路上的这个500千伏的高压电缆塔四周,全是一片泽国。( 法新社)

jackbl
01-10-2009, 02:25 AM
Telecoms told to abide by limits on promotions
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Mobile phone operators cannot offer customers bonuses worth more than 50 percent of a prepaid card’s value, a senior official has said.


The statement comes as the government tightens control over sales promotions.

Do Thang Hai, head of Trade Promotion Agency at the Ministry of Industry and Trade, said Vietnam’s Trade Law stipulates that a bonus offered by businesses cannot exceed 50 percent of the value of the product they are selling, which means local telecom companies have violated the law in the huge promotions they have offered so far.

The agency has warned telecom firms against violating the regulation and asked them to stop all illegitimate sales promotions in October, Hai said in an interview with local newswire VnExpress Friday.

The intense competition between seven telecom firms offering mobile phone services in the country has threatened to get out of hand with some companies even offering a complementary 200 percent of the value of a prepaid card to attract subscribers. Between 5,000-8,000 new mobile phone subscribers are signed up every day, according to the VnExpress newswire.

“It’s hard to know when the competition will end as a company always tries to do better than its rivals,” a manager at Vinaphone said, according to VnExpress.

“The number of mobile phone subscribers has grown really fast in Vietnam, but not in a stable manner,” the Vietnam Economic Times quoted Hai as saying Friday. “Many people just want to enjoy the huge promotions, and then they throw the SIM cards away.”

“In other countries telecom companies focus on postpaid subscribers because they are the real active phone users. But it’s not the case in Vietnam.”

The Ministry of Information and Communications said last Wednesday that mobile phone users account for 87.9 percent of Vietnam’s 110 million phone subcribers.

According to a regulation that took effect on August 10, each person is allowed to subscribe to three numbers per mobile network. This means a person in Vietnam can register a maximum of 21 numbers with the seven service providers.

Source: Thanh Nien

JaViEr84
01-10-2009, 09:53 AM
Sorry to all bros in this thread , i meant to say ignore my post but i tink i was too confused the last few days that i wrote wrongly..

I managed to solve this issue in a clean breakup yesterday by talking with her in a calm discussion..i tried to reason out and patch up calmly but she did not accept and i know its over so just tell her not to hate me( cos she says i make her angry and tired and she had tried giving chances to me tat 4 times and she is tired of giving mi chances) and i wish her weelll in her future...( told me she is going back vietnam next month as her company might cancel her wp)

Felt alot more relieved yesterday , think mayb i clear my doubts... i tink if this time can make it the next time i make her angry unintentionally will also lead to this situation so i had tot it through , its not worth it ... I am actually quite better after the talk and feeling better alot...

I apologise to all bros here for my post these few days.. I think mayb viet gals are'nt really suitable for me after all..

jackbl
01-10-2009, 11:43 AM
No need to apologise, just glad that u hv pull thru and made your own decision. I think only that gal not suitable for u. :D
I apologise to all bros here for my post these few days.. I think mayb viet gals are'nt really suitable for me after all..

haha_123
01-10-2009, 01:08 PM
I apologise to all bros here for my post these few days.. I think mayb viet gals are'nt really suitable for me after all..

Congratulations to you. Like I said, chang tong bu ru duan tong.

But don't worry, all not Vietnam girls are like that. Don't give up the entire forest because of one tree.

But bro, next time u please remember to give some time and space to your partner to breathe. Sometimes if u are too sticky, they will feel uncomfortable too. And don't give them the impression that u can't live without them.

Also, don't be a goody-goody boy next time. We men are not slaves to the women. We wear the trousers, not them.

Remember, nan ren by huai, nu ren bu ai.

Good luck to u! Don't give up! Sure one day u will find someone suitable for u.
Cheers!!;)

Hurricane88
01-10-2009, 01:47 PM
Congratulations to you. Like I said, chang tong bu ru duan tong.

But don't worry, all not Vietnam girls are like that. Don't give up the entire forest because of one tree.

But bro, next time u please remember to give some time and space to your partner to breathe. Sometimes if u are too sticky, they will feel uncomfortable too. And don't give them the impression that u can't live without them.

Also, don't be a goody-goody boy next time. We men are not slaves to the women. We wear the trousers, not them.

Remember, nan ren by huai, nu ren bu ai.

Good luck to u! Don't give up! Sure one day u will find someone suitable for u.
Cheers!!;)

good sound advice...I thought it is the Vn gal that is sticky like super glue...:)

raibo
01-10-2009, 11:56 PM
Hi

Does anyone know what is the meaning of "mat kinh" ??

recently saw a gal add these word with my name in her hp, like "xxx mat kinh".

thanks in advance..

Reaper
02-10-2009, 12:51 AM
Hi

Does anyone know what is the meaning of "mat kinh" ??

recently saw a gal add these word with my name in her hp, like "xxx mat kinh".

thanks in advance..

You wear glasses???

jackbl
02-10-2009, 04:17 AM
recently saw a gal add these word with my name in her hp, like "xxx mat kinh".

You wear glasses???

I think so too. MAT KINH= Wear glasses