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Old 23-06-2018, 04:11 PM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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From my experience, having FBs for free sex is not entirely free. We still got to spend $$ to entertain the FB. Meals, movies, drinks, hotels, etc. So it's not free sex. And some FBs will have emo baggage over time. I think I have enough of emo FBs. Its v draining. Going to give up.

Paid sex has its pros and cons too.

Yes agree with you . Nothing is for free .
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Old 23-06-2018, 11:13 PM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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Yes agree with you . Nothing is for free .
Agree with you too .
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Old 24-06-2018, 03:06 AM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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thanks for the prompt response, I am well aware of the virus and disease transmission and etc., I thought there may be some other drawback too.
Bro,many paid sex workers here offer bbbj which also exposes chiongsters to std.
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Old 24-06-2018, 03:17 AM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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Sorry bro but total bullshit.

The real problem with us guys is this. The moment it gets too easy and we get EVERYTHING we want? We will get bored.

It's not whether she allows you to do all the above or not but rather its the lack of any effort at all from a lot of women when it comes to sex after marriage.

Fucking a good looking girl is great - but fucking your wife that actually is into it and enjoying it as much as we are? That's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better.

Unfortunately the reality is that for most married couples, one or even both parties just stop making an effort and normally...its the lady.

I'm tired today...and we are not?
I have a headache...really? Every week so zhun one meh?
I just don't have the urge anymore...ok I can accept this but this may be a mental/physical issue that perhaps needs to be looked at professionally?

It might also be the fact that we get caught up with our lives, work and worries. We don't dress up. We are out of shape (or less in shape) and physically not as attractive anymore. It might also be the pressures of work, life, bills, money or whatever that is getting in the way.

I honestly think that the root problem is Asian culture (and I'm Asian myself!!). We are attracted to the physical things...and less so the actual person. When something goes wrong? Then we are left with nothing left. Us Asians also find it difficult to communicate with the one person we really should have NOTHING to hide from...but we do anyway. Is it a face issue? Is it social pressures/expectations?


I don't have the answers but I do know this. Being married doesn't mean you stop trying. If anything you need to try HARDER. And this goes BOTH WAYS and not just on the husband or the wife. And if you are too lazy or cant be bothered to try? Then don't complain if they take their pleasures outside of marriage.
Bro, In Singapore, even if the man tries harder but he is aleady retired due to ageism or retrenchment or forced resignation, without money, the wife's factory eventually may close, even if he is earning freelance income but less than her.

There is a Vietnamese American female pregnant comic stand up on her first show on Netflix who says she gives her man blowjob whenever he wants because she can then retire. However, in her second show, she is now drawing more income than him, so the blowjobs have stopped. It may be an Asian women attitude problem.
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Old 24-06-2018, 03:21 AM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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many years ago I met 2 girls at a disco,

we drink very high go to hotel.

my friend was screwing another girl in the other room, then he text me saying she is a ML works at Tanglin Massage, no need for romance, just do

When I asked her if she has condoms, she said, she's clean, so I went raw. Heng man, never kenna anything.

But I never did that crazy thing again. Even blows I take BJ and not BBBJ, even from ONS or flings. I try not to have sex with WL, ONS or flings
end of the day, come out still just as tired. Of course one is more shiok, but also more dangerous and deadly

One time in hongkong went to a KTV, fuck the china girl in the next room, was very drunk I vaguely remember the condom, but forgot if still had it on when finished. Was scared for few weeks, went to see doctor and test.

The fear of fucking a ML WL with condom, and after that those weeks and months you start to fear did I get something is just not worth it.

Now I am very disciplined. Level 1. DIY or use Sex toy. If cannot tahan Level 2. ML with HJ Level 3. ML with BJ - only 3 levels no matter who the girl is or how she looks.
Bro, Good for you.Safety first!Most important.
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Old 24-06-2018, 03:37 AM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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Issue is ......... can you fj wife just like fj other lady ?...
Agree, especially when you do more to spice up the sex, the wife might ask angrily "do you think I am your sex slave"?This is even though she has not even been asked to do blowjobs anymore after one try!
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Old 24-06-2018, 10:32 AM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

Most people addicted to Paid sex especially WL who are all out to please :
1. Oral
2. Painting
3. Demand what is wanted i.e sex position and suction og BJ
4. No string attached just like order a variety dishes.
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Old 24-06-2018, 10:52 AM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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Most people addicted to Paid sex especially WL who are all out to please :
1. Oral
2. Painting
3. Demand what is wanted i.e sex position and suction og BJ
4. No string attached just like order a variety dishes.
Very well said.
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Old 24-06-2018, 11:27 AM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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Agree, especially when you do more to spice up the sex, the wife might ask angrily "do you think I am your sex slave"?This is even though she has not even been asked to do blowjobs anymore after one try!
lots of truth there

and if FB becomes GF also same.

so there is a truth here.

Familiarity breeds contempt

so keep it fresh, outsource but manage your risk and expectations
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Old 24-06-2018, 12:34 PM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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FB can also be screwing outside. And being FB we have more trust with her, so we don't use rubber, CIP, CIM, but remember she has no obligation to be safe with other FB she fucks. FB means she's probably not exclusive to you. If exclusive it's called a GF.

I know many bros who have caught shit from their FBs, some even made her pregnant pay for abortion, not knowing if it's theirs, or even married them.

I choose my FBs v carefully. I have certain criteria. And will know them v well enough before scoring.

So far I caught nothing from them.

For FL, it's v scary coz I already know they serve many men before. The risk is like 100% getting STD from them.

But many FB always end up with emo baggage. damm sian. So far, one or two FB are v steady. They have no baggage and understand mutual situation.

But the rest are like stickers to my back.
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Old 24-06-2018, 01:57 PM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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I choose my FBs v carefully. I have certain criteria. And will know them v well enough before scoring.

So far I caught nothing from them.

For FL, it's v scary coz I already know they serve many men before. The risk is like 100% getting STD from them.

But many FB always end up with emo baggage. damm sian. So far, one or two FB are v steady. They have no baggage and understand mutual situation.

But the rest are like stickers to my back.
FL not as risky as you think as long as you stay protected, you can never truly know how many partners your FB raw before and symptoms may not even appear but looks like you have your criteria so that's good.

The greatest fear/risk i have of those emo FB, is that they come back to "haunt" me if I become successful. For FL you're just another face that comes and goes
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Old 24-06-2018, 05:06 PM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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By definition, free sex is no need to pay for having sex.

However, all expenses incurred alongside the free sex are something that u still have to bear, be it relevant or irrelevant..
Fully agreed with you.
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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Most people addicted to Paid sex especially WL who are all out to please :
1. Oral
2. Painting
3. Demand what is wanted i.e sex position and suction og BJ
4. No string attached just like order a variety dishes.
Fully agreed.
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Old 24-06-2018, 09:22 PM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

The only reason why I pay for sex is "for her to go away".
Some of my best sex are with angmoh escorts who know how to spoil you and not afraid to go adventurous to give that.

Why angmohs?
I loves blondes, fiery redheads and ginger red. Small faces. Big eyes - blue, green hazel ...
Round derriere with contours.

I have paid $600 an hour for the really good escorts. And add $200 extra for PSE and BBFS. The really expensive ones see less clients. Going raw with them are safer because they are exclusive and selective.


On a few occasions, I have been refunded when the escorts failed to perform due to ailments during the session. Eg One girl had stomach cramp during a mutual oral/69. She refunded me $400 but kept $50 for callout fees in Sydney.

Not all men are made to stay faithful to one woman. Men and women change as we grow older, our needs change.

Some people go for polyamorous relationships, some swing, others are into dominatrix experiences.
Some come out after discovering they are gays or lesbians. Some became monks and nuns.

Marriage is an artifical institution. You only live once. Make it yours.
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Old 25-06-2018, 12:39 AM
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Re: Why married man still visit FL?

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I choose my FBs v carefully. I have certain criteria. And will know them v well enough before scoring.

So far I caught nothing from them.

For FL, it's v scary coz I already know they serve many men before. The risk is like 100% getting STD from them.

But many FB always end up with emo baggage. damm sian. So far, one or two FB are v steady. They have no baggage and understand mutual situation.

But the rest are like stickers to my back.
I think the point of FB is not to know them so well

so I don't know what's your definition of FB. Once we know them well its hard to not be emotional

For me FBs I don't want to know what they do, their family, their personal matters. We are meeting just for sex. Once you open the door of past, present, future discussion, that's it. You go into emotions

So I do not know how to choose FB carefully. And since I don't see it as a mutually exclusive relationship involving feelings, I can't see why the lady would be exclusive to me in sex, and me to her.

With FL you know where they have been, you know what to expect, so you manage your expectations and risk

With FB you can't ask them did you fuck anyone recently, or did you wear a condom when you did. Who do you talk to online or text. You can't ask all these things neither can you ask them to tell you or expect them to. So I can't see why they would want to be faithful or loyal to one guy when its just sex.
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