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Old 03-10-2015, 11:40 PM
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

Definitely guilty and sent to jail. If you go check back news articles dated back to when NKF head honcho TT Durai was convicted, Kong hee immediately removed himself from the church's payroll system and relied on so called overseas 'missions' to earn cash. I think that was the time this saga started since he needed to find a way to cover things up.
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

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But with Money

you can employ good lawyers and many many lawyers to study the case and find loophole to win the case

Since they have so much money donated by the church friend.

Chance that they may get away.
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Main characters bo daiji, probably 1 or 2 scapegoats
Yeah, agree that with so many donations from their church members, they can hire an outstanding lawyer to help them win the case. Their lawyer is Edwin Tong who is also a mp. Wondering why he would take up this case? Dun he feel that it's a scam also?

Wondering why those church members still so support of them? Dun they suspect anything? Or blindly religion followers of Mr KH? Really despicable of the pastor to make use of those followers trust on them, misuse their donations, to lead a lavish lifestyle.

I also think the main characters will not be sentenced, only some scapegoats are sacrificed. Normally, these type of case will drag very long time, until most of them forget abt it.

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Old 04-10-2015, 06:02 AM
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

Some members are already brainwashed, believing KH is god
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

Let the court decide and wait for the verdict.
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

Live Updates:

4.58am: Close to 70 people are in the queue, ahead of the expected delivery of the verdict of the CHC trial.

6.12am: The queue has extended to about 100 people, says our reporter. Only 55 will be allowed in.

7.06am: Queue numbers were given out to the first 55 in the line.
Most of the rest who did not get a ticket left quickly,
while a handful was seen complaining to the security guard.

8.58am: Chew Eng Han, an ex-City Harvest investment committee member, has arrived at the State Courts.

9.03am: Ex-board member John Lam and deputy senior pastor Tan Ye Peng have also arrived in court.

9.10am: Members of the public who received queue numbers earlier this morning are being allowed into the courtroom.

9.16am: N Sreenivasan, Tan Ye Peng's lawyer, has arrived in court.

9.19am: Former finance manager of CHC Sharon Tan has arrived in court. Mr Andre Maniam, Serina Wee's lawyer, has arrived.

9.20am: CHC senior pastor Kong Hee and his wife, Ho Yeow Sun, have arrived.

9.21am: Former finance manager of CHC Serina Wee has arrived in court.

9.29am: All the accused have taken their seats in the dock.

9.33am: About 50 members of the public, including church supporters, are present in the court room.

9.38am: Court officials have taken their places, and Judge See Kee Oon has entered.

9.40am: "The main background facts are largely undisputed," said the judge,
adding that he will set out his findings for criminal breach of trust first,
before focusing on the extent of accused persons' knowledge.

9.42am: Xtron and Firna bonds were not genuine investments,
but were designed to create the appearance that Firna bonds were genuine, said the judge.
"I find that ... they were wrong uses of CHC funds."

9.45am: Xtron bonds were clearly under CHC control,
and funds were channeled there for use towards the Crossover project, said the judge.

9.46am: Kong, Tan Ye Peng and Wee had a substantial role in channeling the funds, said the judge,
adding that John Lam had a "less substantial" role but had his own part to play.

9.49am: All of the accused gave auditors the impression
that City Harvest and Xtron were independent of each other, said the judge.

9.51am: All accused knew the purpose of Firna bonds was to channel money from the building fund to the Crossover project, said Judge See.

9.56am: The "round-tripping of funds" was used to "create an appearance of genuine transactions", said the judge.
"Accused persons controlled these transactions every step of the way."

9.58am: Judge See said that he is "satisfied that ... there is falsification of CHC accounts".

10am: "Documentary evidence goes a long way in demonstrating their guilty knowledge," said the judge.

10.01am: The accused engaged in conspiracies to ... defraud and falsify accounts," said Judge See.
"If it can be shown that they were doing was legitimate I think there may well be room for doubt,
but the weight of evidence shows they were acting dishonestly."
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Old 21-10-2015, 10:41 AM
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

Live Updates:

10.05am: "I am satisfied that six accused persons are guilty of all the charges against them,"
said Judge See in his verdict.


10.07am: "No matter how pure the motive ...
these do not exonerate accused persons," said Judge See.

10.08am: Sentencing will be on a later date,
and the Judge said that he does not oppose that bail be extended.

10.10am: Lawyers are now waiting to meet with the judge.
A few CHC supporters are seen with their head bowed and praying,
and none appear to be leaving.

10.13am: All the lawyers, including Chew Eng Han who is representing himself,
are now in the chambers with the judge to discuss bail details and the date of sentencing.

The prosecution and defence are also set to come before the judge again at a later date,
to put forward their recommendations on the appropriate punishment for the accused.

Criminal breach of trust can attract a life sentence or a jail term of up to 20 years, and a fine.
The falsification of accounts carries a jail term of up to 10 years and a fine.

10.33am: The lawyers have returned from the judge's chambers.
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Old 21-10-2015, 10:58 AM
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

Probably a slap on the wrist for the main culprits like K.H. The scapegoats will probably be Sharon Tan and Serina Wee in my opinion. Anyway, these will all be water under the bridge over time. Look at where TT Durai (NKF scandal) and Ming Yi (Ren Ci scandal) are now. At most a few months in jail and they will go on with their lives.
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

Confirm all will go to jail . It is a matter of how long will be the sentence.
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

Live Updates:

10.37am: Judge See has returned.

10.38am: The prosecution will have to file their submissions by Nov 6,
and the defence by Nov 13,
while oral submissions will have to be filed by Nov 20.
The prosecution has asked for bail to be doubled.

10.39am: The judge is extending bail for all accused,
which stands at S$1 million for each,
with the exception of Serina Wee and Sharon Tan.
Bail stands at S$750,000 each for Wee and Tan.

All are not permitted to travel.

10.40am: All lawyers have confirmed that their clients have bailors.

10.41am: Court is adjourned.

10.48am: The accused have left the courtroom,
but are gathered inside the State Courts building with their supporters

10.49am: Chew Eng Han, who conducted his own defence separately,
has said that he plans to appeal after sentencing.
He was seen hugging his crying daughter after the verdict.

10.59am: CHC senior pastor Kong Hee is seen leaving the court with his wife, Sun Ho.
He was found guilty of three counts of criminal breach of trust.

11.18am: City Harvest Church has released a statement on their website.
In the statement, CHC co-founder Sun Ho said that they were "disappointed by the outcome".

"Nonetheless, I know that Pastor Kong and the rest are studying the judgment intently
and will take legal advice from their respective lawyers in the days to come," she added.
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?

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Dear Church Family,
The judge has rendered his decision and, naturally, we are disappointed by the outcome. Nonetheless, I know that Pastor Kong and the rest are studying the judgment intently and will take legal advice from their respective lawyers in the days to come.

As was the case throughout these past three years of court trial, and the earlier two years of investigation, we have placed our faith in God and trust that whatever the outcome, He will use it for our good (Romans 8:28). This protracted season has been extremely difficult, not just for the six, but also for all their families and friends, as well as for our congregation.

In spite of these challenges, City Harvest Church has an unshakeable calling from God. Recently, Pastor Kong has exhorted us to focus on our core values, and serve the purpose of God with greater effectiveness and sustainability. Since 2012, we have had a new management and a new Church Board running the operations of the church. Therefore, let’s stay the course with CHC 2.0. God is making us stronger, purer and more mature as a congregation.

Thank you for your unwavering faithfulness in loving God and loving one another. More than ever before, let’s have a unity that is unbreakable. We are not alone as many of our friends and churches around the world are also interceding fervently for us. God knows the way that we take; when He has tested us, we shall come forth as gold (Job 23:10).

Pastor Kong and I are humbled by the tremendous outpouring of love and support shown to us during this time. We thank you for your prayers. Please continue to pray for Pastor Kong, Pastor Tan, John Lam, Sharon, Serina and Eng Han.

In Christ’s love, for His glory,
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Probably a slap on the wrist for the main culprits like K.H. The scapegoats will probably be Sharon Tan and Serina Wee in my opinion. Anyway, these will all be water under the bridge over time. Look at where TT Durai (NKF scandal) and Ming Yi (Ren Ci scandal) are now. At most a few months in jail and they will go on with their lives.
I think KH will get the most, followed by tan ye peng, serina, n lam may get the least.


KH is the head of all these, use others as puppets. I really hope the judge takes all these into consideration.

Ren Ci? n Durai? their amount involved, n complexity is not as bad as this case. Not to forget they purposely drag n give stupid excuses it cannot find lawyer. It has been too long.

Not to forget their lies in court, that may add on to a heavier sentencing.
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10.05am: "I am satisfied that six accused persons are guilty of all the charges against them,"
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