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I understand all these as well. I do my own research as well. I will feedback to my doc in next appt.

It was okay for 6 months until my doctor decided to increase my dosage.

As for now, im struggling.
Why did he increase the dosage if you were doing OK? It seems strange to experiment with dosage levels once your mood has been stabilised.
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It depends what you mean by "advise".

Many therapy groups involve those suffering from the same ailment sharing information and providing support for each other.

It takes one depressed person to understand what a fellow sufferer feels.
Most therapy group has a group leader (usually a therapist). I agree it takes one depressed person to understand fellow sufferer but better to be in a controlled environment. You never know what two depressed persons can ended up doing without proper guidance.
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Most therapy group has a group leader (usually a therapist). I agree it takes one depressed person to understand fellow sufferer but better to be in a controlled environment. You never know what two depressed persons can ended up doing without proper guidance.
There are loads of depression forums where members help each other by sharing experiences. However they are US, UK centric.

This thread is an effort to start something in the Singapore context.
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Most therapy group has a group leader (usually a therapist). I agree it takes one depressed person to understand fellow sufferer but better to be in a controlled environment. You never know what two depressed persons can ended up doing without proper guidance.
It does not have to be in a controlled environment. While I was at IMH, i had chances to confide 1 on 1 with different people going through the same thing. We could understand each other on total different level other normal people couldnt. It brought us much confort that we're not alone doing this and that there are people who understands.

It really helps to know that I'm not alone, even though I feel bad for him/her for going going through such an ordeal. I will never want anyone to suffer the way i did.
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It really helps to know that I'm not alone, even though I feel bad for him/her for going going through such an ordeal. I will never want anyone to suffer the way i did.
Are you taking an SSRI? You could consider switching to a different class of anti depressant if it is not working for you.
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I am taking anti-depressants and going through therapy.

It feel so painful now.
sis come out and do some more exercise ... you will feel fresh after that
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sis come out and do some more exercise ... you will feel fresh after that
Yes exercise induces the "feel good" factor.

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It does not have to be in a controlled environment. While I was at IMH, i had chances to confide 1 on 1 with different people going through the same thing. We could understand each other on total different level other normal people couldnt. It brought us much confort that we're not alone doing this and that there are people who understands.

It really helps to know that I'm not alone, even though I feel bad for him/her for going going through such an ordeal. I will never want anyone to suffer the way i did.
Good to know you have a good experience. Hope everyone can have that same experience.
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Also take note that SSRIs like Citalopram and Prozaic are notorious for killing libido and causing sexual dysfunction
There are new drugs now like Brintellix, Pristiq and Wellbutrin that claim to have fewer sexual function side effects.

I had a patient (lady) who switched from Escitalopram to Wellbutrin and got all her libido back.
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There are new drugs now like Brintellix, Pristiq and Wellbutrin that claim to have fewer sexual function side effects.

I had a patient (lady) who switched from Escitalopram to Wellbutrin and got all her libido back.
Yes Wellbutrin (Bupropion), (marketed in NZ under trade name Zyban for smoking cessation) actually enhances sex and makes orgasms more intense.

The effects of SSRIs on libido was grossly under-reported by the drug companies. They claim 10% to 15% would suffer reduced libido but the reality is more like 60% to 80%.
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Re: Help with Depression and Self Esteem issues

I am currently going thru a bad patch and had to seek medical help after I started to show signs of cracking up during 1 weekend: crying, negative thots, unable to sleep, lost of appetite, moody, panic attack, sensitive to strong smell and sudden change in temp, etc.

Saw the doctor at 9 in the morning and I was fortunate that the same clinic has an inhouse psychiatrist available that morning at 11am. Was immediate given 1/2 tablet of Laxopro and another pill to help calm me down. Was then asked to take a week's break.

I did not continue with the medication prescribed to me, but chose to 'handle the situation' on my own: talk to friends, exercise, relax, psych myself about my problem ....

Saw the psychiatrist after a week and he was quite surprised I did not take the medication. He suggested a follow up after 2 weeks. But I pushed it to a month.

I am now cold turkey without the medication for about 3 weeks. I am still struggling but much better. Still get ups & downs.

Should I have stuck with the medications prescribed? I am concerned that I would be addicted to it. The psychiatrist visit and medication is also very costly.
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Should I have stuck with the medications prescribed? I am concerned that I would be addicted to it. The psychiatrist visit and medication is also very costly.
I used to be anti happy pills too until I saw first hand that they actually work.

Depression is not just a state of mind it is an actual imbalance in the brain chemistry of the sufferer. Depression can actually be SEEN in a pet scan.

When the stomach is too acidic we take an antacid to restore the balance without a second thought. We don't say "just leave it and hope for the best". We pop an antacid to make the pain go away and to restore the stomach's Ph.

Depression is no different. Brain chemistry has gone haywire and intervention is required to put things right and this comes in the form of an anti-depressant. Just hoping that it will go away with time is wishful thinking. Intensive intervention is required either in the form of a pill or CBT or both.

I would definitely recommend that you take the medication. However the tricky part is that anti depressants don't work straight away. They may take up to 4 weeks before the benefits are felt and a lot of people lose heart along the way thinking that they are wasting their money.

In some people depression actually gets worse when an anti-depressant is first introduced before the black fog begins to lift. This leads to many sufferers abandoning their medicines in despair. Perseverance is essential before things start to come right.

Psychiatric specialists are expensive but well worth the money as the cost of being depressed can be far, far worse. You could lose job, opportunities, even your life.

My recommendation is to work with your psychiatrist till you have found a drug and a dosage that works for you.

Once you know what works your GP can prescribe it to you and you no longer need to see a specialist.
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Re: Help with Depression and Self Esteem issues

This is what depression can do to a person. It can be a FATAL disease and it defies logic and reasoning.

Ask yourself why a healthy young male who seems to have everything going for him would kill himself because he felt so miserable that he considered life not worth living. The answer lies within the chemistry of the brain.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-suicide.html

Olympic champion cyclist Steve Wooldridge has died in a suspected suicide, just short of his 40th birthday.

By Nic White For Daily Mail Australia

PUBLISHED: 14:40 +10:00, 15 August 2017 | UPDATED: 16:25 +10:00, 15

The father-of-two was found dead on Monday, just two years after he was inducted into the NSW Sports Hall of Fame.



Wooldridge won gold at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the team pursuit, the 2002 Commonwealth Games, and in four World Championships.

Champion cyclist Steve Wooldridge (2nd from left) has died in a suspected suicide a decade after he won gold for Australia at the 2004 Olympics and World Championships

The father-of-two was found dead on Mondayl leaving behind his partner Anna (R) and a young son and daughter

He leaves behind his partner Anna and a young son and daughter.

'These two make me so happy!' he wrote under a photo of Anna and his daughter he posted to Facebook just a week before his death.

Cycling NSW announced his death on Tuesday calling him an 'inspirational figure in track cycling' who made a great contribution to the sport.

His shock death rocked the Australian cycling community with friends and former teammates giving heartfelt tributes on social media.

Cycling NSW called him an 'inspirational figure in track cycling' who made a great contribution to the sport (pictured left at 2004 World Championships)

His shock death rocked the Australian cycling community with friends and former teammates giving heartfelt tributes on social media +8

Close friend and mentor Phillip Bates praised Wooldridge's determination in winning Commonwealth gold soon after his mother Jan died of cancer.

'Tragically today he gave his life away leaving behind a son and daughter, family and friends just short of his 40th birthday,' he said.



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I am currently going thru a bad patch and had to seek medical help after I started to show signs of cracking up during 1 weekend: crying, negative thots, unable to sleep, lost of appetite, moody, panic attack, sensitive to strong smell and sudden change in temp, etc.

Saw the doctor at 9 in the morning and I was fortunate that the same clinic has an inhouse psychiatrist available that morning at 11am. Was immediate given 1/2 tablet of Laxopro and another pill to help calm me down. Was then asked to take a week's break.

I did not continue with the medication prescribed to me, but chose to 'handle the situation' on my own: talk to friends, exercise, relax, psych myself about my problem ....

Saw the psychiatrist after a week and he was quite surprised I did not take the medication. He suggested a follow up after 2 weeks. But I pushed it to a month.

I am now cold turkey without the medication for about 3 weeks. I am still struggling but much better. Still get ups & downs.

Should I have stuck with the medications prescribed? I am concerned that I would be addicted to it. The psychiatrist visit and medication is also very costly.
Sammyboy took the words right out of my mouth. That was exactly how it works. At least for me, it was and still is.
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Re: Help with Depression and Self Esteem issues

You will not get addicted to anti-depressants. The only precaution is that you cannot stop taking them suddenly once you have started. You need to taper off the medication slowly.

EG your dosage is 150mg per day and you and your doctor have decided that it is safe for you to try to come off anti depressants, then you need to start gradually reducing your dosage eg go from 150mg/day to 100mg/day to 50mg/day and so on.

Everybody is different. Some patients can come off a drug within a month or so. Others may take longer.

The side effects of suddenly stopping vary with the drug but typical effects are insomnia, mood swings etc.

For specific side effects of each drug just do a google search.
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