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MGTOW (Men Going Their On Way)

Any MGTOWs here? I’m increasingly attracted to a MGTOW way of life. Women are inferior to men and they always make men suffer in relationships in return for pussy which can be obtained without relationship/marriage anyway.

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The History of M.G.T.O.W | Men Going Their Own Way
Men have gone their own way for centuries. Welcome to v.2018.

There has been much chatter about when "MGTOW" originated online as a recent social phenomenon, but one would really have to pull the camera back. Way back to Schopenhauer, Tesla, Beethoven, Galileo, or even Jesus Christ - if you're up to arguing that.

MGTOW is not as old as fire, but it's as old as a man's first discovery of it.

Fire always exists - even when you can't see it - and it only takes a spark or a bolt of lightning to ignite a blaze. MGTOW could be regarded as a reaction to recent cultural shifts, but the exact phrase "Men Going Their Own Way" can be found in print and newspaper clippings dating back to 1853, and spanning the 20th century.

If MGTOW is fire, then perhaps feminism is gasoline.

"For every action has an equal and opposite reaction".
- Sir Isaac Newton's 3rd Law of Motion

Survival and mating are the success model for animals in the wild. That's the best they will ever do. But marriage and children are not the highest pinnacle of success for Men. Some 60% of men who ever lived on Earth never had children, so what did they dedicate their lives to?

For millennia, men have accomplished and contributed far greater miracles of science, discovery and human endeavor, and thanks to men like Orville and Wilbur Wright, man is the only mammal that can't fly - that CAN fly. Man is also the only species that has the capability of deflecting an extinction-level event.
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"I do not think you can name many great inventions that have been made by married men. Be alone, that is the secret of invention. Be alone, that is when ideas are born."
- Nikola Tesla (1856-1943)
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"I don't have time for a wife and an airplane".
- Wilbur Wright (1867 – 1912)
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But today, in the current culture, TIME® magazine says science reveals "men are idiots" because men are more likely than women to take idiotic risks. Let's pause for a moment and reflect on that:

Men are more likely than women to take "idiotic" risks.

Idiotic risks, like attempting to break the sound barrier which cost the lives of many test pilots. Idiotic risks, such as lighting the tail end of a rocket on fire and catapulting himself into outer space. Idiotic risks, like building an armada of ships to cross the world's most tempestuous oceans in order to definitively answer the question for all of humanity that the world is, indeed, round.

These "idiotic risks" which men have taken afford women the luxury of boarding an aircraft and flying from New York to Los Angeles in 4.5 hours - while never once needing to take an interest in the basic operating principles of a jet engine. She can't explain thrust to weight ratios, but she will complain the flight was delayed 30 minutes.

Today, you can still see modern women contemplating the shape of the Earth... even though the question has been answered by men centuries ago, and most civilized 6 year-olds have already seen a globe in a classroom. Is this why anyone who says "women are smarter than men" will receive an automatic round of applause?

A modern man of mediocre intelligence can at least begin to speculate the world is round by observing the way the moon casts light and shadows exactly like a sphere. The shadow of the Earth on the moon is round during a lunar Eclipse, and when observing other planets, he will notice they are all spherical in shape. Our sun also appears circular at all angles, and so too is the motion of the night sky when photographed using an apparatus created by other men.

Modern men are not as exceptionally stupid as TIME magazine pretends. A growing population of men will refuse to subscribe to the utter nonsense perpetuated in the culture, the media, magazines, on television, or in society at large. They are passionately curious, will question everything, and are fundamental seekers of the truth - no matter how painful the truth may be. They are the men who will choose and prefer to go their own way, independent of what we are subjected to on a daily basis. Always have and always will, because if men didn't do it, who else would?

"Men are more likely than women to take idiotic risks".

Isn't that called a "wage gap"? Or is it an accomplishment gap.
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If scientific study reveals "men are more likely than women to take idiotic risks", then it must also be acknowledged that men are more likely than women to be congratulated on their successes as a result of taking those risks.

That kind of a pro-male acknowledgement will be often skewed by many to mean something "anti-female". The very same publishers at TIME® who proudly call men "idiots" will even say a man's right ( to stand up for himself and not be beaten down ) is somehow "toxic and misogynistic", and can be found in their very own "sexism" section.

Men are no longer revered or respected on a most basic level for their contributions and past sacrifices, and are now reduced to "idiots" for that. The recent cultural explosion of MGTOW should have long been expected in the face of this kind of nonsense which is force-fed to the sheeple who will buy it by the trough.

Men Going Their Own Way have now learned and adapted.
It is simply not worth taking idiotic risks anymore.

And since taking idiotic risks is the mark of an idiot, then NOT taking them makes a man SMART.

How ironic and appropriate that the very thing men have been accused of, is now something more men are quite happy to avoid. An ever expanding population of men have quite simply had enough of watching other men laying down their lives for pointless reasons, and giving their life's labour for some greater good that just doesn't exist anymore. Perhaps it never did.

Men have decided "the greater good" means something else, and it doesn't include their own disposability. When a cost/benefit analysis reveals there is no benefit, it doesn't take a genius to remove himself from the equation. In this kind of climate, a smart man does not effectively show his value by giving more, or by working harder. He shows his value by removing himself entirely. It requires no effort to make the same impact.

Great men of history have already given enough, so the modern man can afford to take a century off.

"Don't just do something. Stand there.".
- Clint Eastwood

The MGTOW first law of motion.
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M.G.T.O.W – Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.

sov·er·eign·ty
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Noun. Meaning: Supreme power or authority. Autonomy, independence, self-government, self-rule, self-determination, freedom. Self-governing.
Means not doing what women expect men to do, in order to be 'rewarded' like a dog.

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The Manosphere

Slowly but surely, the Manosphere is gaining steam and extending its reach. Men in their late 30s and beyond who had the luxury of semi-rejecting the red pill while still finding moderate success are being outnumbered by a younger generation who realize they really don’t have a choice in the matter. Unlike the older men, these men didn’t choose to unplug; they were unplugged. Yet they thrive.

Happiness is an eagle soaring through the air, because that’s what it was made to do; it worries not about the wind, because the same wind that creates resistance also gives lift. Happiness is a fish swimming in the water, because that’s what it was made to do; it worries not about strong currents, because the same turbulent waters that cloud its view also churns up sustenance. Happiness is a tree growing deep roots, because that’s what it was made to do; it worries not about its lack of freedom, because the same roots that hold it down also allow it to weather the storm.

Happiness is a man who protects and cares for his family, goes forth and conquers, gives of himself for a greater cause, and ensures his legacy – because that’s what he was made to do. He doesn’t fear resistance, turbulence, or commitment, because his masculine frame turns resistance into rise, finds sustenance in turbulent waters, and relies on the steadfast roots of commitment to provide stability for himself and safety for those he vowed to protect.

But today’s men are encouraged to meet resistance head on while being shamed for expecting lift. They’re told to “man up” and tough it out through turbulent waters while being called misogynists for expecting sustenance. They’re shamed into putting down roots in infertile hypergamous soil that offers no support, then are financially ruined and separated from their children when they cannot weather the storm.

And society wonders why these men walk away.

Play or be played: That’s the world the vast majority of men wake up to in the present day. For these young men, it’s not a philosophy or an attitude; it’s reality.

The companies they work for demand loyalty, but will fire them or lay them off without a second thought if profits dip one tenth of one percent.

The women they encounter demand attention, loyalty, resources and undue privilege, while offering very little in return. The natural hypergamous nature that once served them well in their quest to secure the best possible mate is now a sustained lifestyle bringing an endless pursuit of bigger and better. The average young woman today is less concerned about the number of quality men who would commit to her than she is about the number of men who retweet a photo of her breasts.

Young men today attend churches with pastors who demand they “man up” and support the church and its female parishioners, but that same church does nothing to cultivate an environment that encourages feminine strength. Sunday after Sunday they listen as the same Bible used to preemptively absolve women of all past, current and future transgressions is used to condemn men.

They have best friends from childhood who disappear six months after the wedding, because the new bride doesn’t want her hubby hanging out with single losers.

They have to pick up the tab for dad’s dinner, because his going broke trying to support mom, her new live-in boyfriend, and a 12 year old he’s not certain is even his. The young man watches as middle-management dad making $70k per year tries to crank the engine in his 11 year old car to no avail, and then has to give him a ride back to his apartment on the seedy side of town. The young man shudders as he realizes the father who “did the right thing” by sacrificing his life for his family can fit everything he owns into a 580 sq ft apartment with plenty of room to spare.

The young man has finally learned that men and women share the same inherent character flaws, but not the same consequences. He has sinned, and he has paid dearly. She has sinned, and she has been exalted.

He doesn’t hate his corporation; he hates the system. He doesn’t hate God; he hates what the church does in God’s name. He doesn’t hate women; he hates the unforgiving female support machine. He doesn’t hate feminists or White Knights; he hates navigating the environment they create.

That’s why there’s a Manosphere, and that’s why it’s growing.

Every day you can log on to any number of blogs to discuss how meeting the resistance of feminism gives rise to notch counts, how navigating the turbulent waters of society churns up the sustenance of independence, and how putting down deep ideological roots in the soil of personal responsibility can help you weather any storm life throws at you.

Men haven’t lost their need to find happiness by providing, protecting, sacrificing and conquering; we’ve simply discovered that providing for the modern feminist, working like a dog to protect a family that can be taken away at a moment’s notice, or risking our lives to conquer resources for some ungrateful women who claims she can do it on her own is an empty way to live. We haven’t changed the mission; we’ve changed the method. We now provide for ourselves and our immediate families, protect our interests, make selective sacrifices when the situation warrants, and conquer mountains of poon.

Men find happiness and purpose in the effort, regardless of who benefits from the effort. It took us a while to figure that out, and many of us still aren’t there yet, but we’re slowly coming around.

Welcome to the Manosphere; a place where we’re not afraid to call it exactly as we see it, turning betas into men is a group effort, no one is in charge, there’s no central theme, we can’t agree on a standard definition of anything, and we spend a good amount of time shooting flaming arrows at each other for no apparent reason.

To the casual observer, the Manosphere may seem like a disjointed collection of blogs and websites, but the Manosphere does not exist online; it exists in the hearts and minds of the next great generation of men. The Manosphere is the Big Bang of chaotic masculine disruption that will eventually bring into existence a new personal world of freedom for those who choose to be free.

It’s evolving and forming right before our very eyes.
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Any MGTOWs here? I’m increasingly attracted to a MGTOW way of life. Women are inferior to men and they always make men suffer in relationships in return for pussy which can be obtained without relationship/marriage anyway.
MGTOW. Took the red pill recently. Many more things to learn. Love seeing how married men complain about how they have no more sex in their marriage and all they can say is "this is life", or "no choice", or "you are still too young to understand".
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MGTOW. Took the red pill recently. Many more things to learn. Love seeing how married men complain about how they have no more sex in their marriage and all they can say is "this is life", or "no choice", or "you are still too young to understand".
This MGTOW is shit. Have a sense of basic decency, common sense, think with big head, prioritise the future and looking ahead will get you out of the MGtOW or whatever the mgtow or whatever you call this shit. It is the bad boy concept. Women are naturally attracted to the alpha male, the one who acquires by strength because he has options not because he has to beg.
Some easy pointers which uou should have before a relationship in order of requirement:
1. Have a good career
2. Be able to own your own place comfortably
3. Be able to own a car comfortably.
4. Stay fit and healthy while you are acquiring 1,2 & 3 by going to gym or runs or high mobility sports. Fat people are not attractive.
5. Join social gatherings (not matchmaking) to build up social circle.
6. Be gentlemanly, don't make sexual advances to non FL WL. If you need fun, goo for paid fun.
7. As women number in your choices increases, you will be able to make your own choices.
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Some easy pointers which uou should have before a relationship in order of requirement:
1. Have a good career
2. Be able to own your own place comfortably
3. Be able to own a car comfortably.
4. Stay fit and healthy while you are acquiring 1,2 & 3 by going to gym or runs or high mobility sports. Fat people are not attractive.
5. Join social gatherings (not matchmaking) to build up social circle.
6. Be gentlemanly, don't make sexual advances to non FL WL. If you need fun, goo for paid fun.
7. As women number in your choices increases, you will be able to make your own choices.
That's exactly the culture that MGTOW is advocating against. There's nothing wrong with men working hard to be great because that's what men are. What's wrong, is the notion that men needing to achieve everything while women just spread legs (and even that's only when they 'feel' generous) to enjoy everything that men worked hard to gain. As if that's not privileged enough, men have to tolerate all the women emotional + drama shit, and when divorce, they get to share what the men worked hard to gain. It proves that most women are incapable of getting their dream life on their own and have to depend on men, while enslaving their men physically and emotionally at the same time.

MGTOW is not about doing bad things to women, it's about not allowing women to do bad things to men. No marriage, no staying together, no free lunch/support. Want to enjoy nice house/car/travel in life, achieve your own. But if the woman wants to hang out and chill, no issue.
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That's exactly the culture that MGTOW is advocating against. There's nothing wrong with men working hard to be great because that's what men are. What's wrong, is the notion that men needing to achieve everything while women just spread legs (and even that's only when they 'feel' generous) to enjoy everything that men worked hard to gain. As if that's not privileged enough, men have to tolerate all the women emotional + drama shit, and when divorce, they get to share what the men worked hard to gain. It proves that most women are incapable of getting their dream life on their own and have to depend on men, while enslaving their men physically and emotionally at the same time.

MGTOW is not about doing bad things to women, it's about not allowing women to do bad things to men. No marriage, no staying together, no free lunch/support. Want to enjoy nice house/car/travel in life, achieve your own. But if the woman wants to hang out and chill, no issue.
Have you read carefully the different levels of mgtow? Only losers will want to embark on that. I advocate maturity and dignity in men, ostracise women who don't respect men. Not some shit that stems from sour grapes.
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MGTOW, this is to tell the ladies we do not need all their shit and baggages. Make them value add to the relationship, and if cannot just dump them. Hell to women charter!
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Have you read carefully the different levels of mgtow? Only losers will want to embark on that. I advocate maturity and dignity in men, ostracise women who don't respect men. Not some shit that stems from sour grapes.
Out of curiousity, how many of the 7 points have you achieved? Are you married?
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Re: MGTOW (Men Going Their On Way)

People have varying understanding of MGTOW. It's a concept that's largely subjectively known to people with varying degree of understanding. Ultimately, we just have to know the true nature of the gender. Once we know, the rest are simpler to understand. It's been told again and again in the forum and everywhere else. Sexless marriage after daily sex before marriage is one cautionary example out of many. Contract is signed, why work so hard? That's why it's only wise to walk away from the system that encourages the behaviour which is undesired. Not cos of sour grapes. It's cos of realisation that it's simply not worth it.
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