Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?
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Originally Posted by newyorker88
read up mrslightnfriends blog, or facebook. or chc confessions.
You can get a lot of answers from there.
My point of view? Sure kena guilty. The evidence are too over whelming.
Serina may look hot as a MILF, but by the time she is out, old liao.
Sun Ho? Her scanty clothes did not even turn me on. She is a Pastor to lead CHC from now onwards.
Sharon Tan? don't look sexy to me. Pity her though.
Thanks for info & predictions bro newyorker88.
Did come across some of the articles from mrslightnfriends / chc confessions. Fascinating read!
I will do Serina anytime!
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Originally Posted by durian
The question is has the prosecutor proven beyond a reasonable doubt in this case which is the highest standard of proof that must be met in any trial.
I hear u bro durian.
So ... yr verdict? All acquitted?
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Originally Posted by kendom7
I honestly believed with all the people involved in this saga, there will be a few that will be taking the fall, and maybe 1 or 2 escaped with maybe a fine. This case involves lots of $$$$, and also it is dealing with a religious 'entity' here.
So, when fraud and corruption is committed, and I am sure sufficient evidence is " collected and produced", then come Oct when the verdict is out..be prepared to be shock and shocked., just like GE2015.
Stay tune.
Thanks for yr prediction bro kendom7.
So who do u think will escape with just a fine?
Serina?
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Originally Posted by ChenYaFa
All are guilty as hell.
I think so too. So fine or jail?
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Originally Posted by DanielSturridge
If I am the judge all will be sentenced to prison.
Thanks all for prediction! Stay tuned ...
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?
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Originally Posted by IwantbustyKim
I said this from time and time again. Religion is a SCAM!!! .
The well meaning ones are just misguided while the more ambitious ones are all out to control and manipulated the stupid masses who believe in their bullshit. E.g. Fly a plane into a building so you can have fucking virgins in the after-life cos some cowardly caveman said so.
All this stupid nonsense so that their vain but horse-face pastor can do sexy videos like this:
Thanks for yr contribution bro.
So ... you haven't told us yr prediction yet bro.
All will go jail?
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Originally Posted by Babarella
How to be guilty? No consideration woh. Or rather prosecutor did not do utmost to present beyond reasonable doubt, money is pocketed unlike Najib. Some more state cannot say church cannot invest.
Thanks for yr reply Sis Babarella (sorry I'm assuming u r a sis).
So ... your verdict? All acquitted without fine?
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?
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Originally Posted by Qu Bu Qu Ma?
Thanks for yr contribution bro.
So ... you haven't told us yr prediction yet bro.
All will go jail?
Thanks for yr reply Sis Babarella (sorry I'm assuming u r a sis).
So ... your verdict? All acquitted without fine?
IMHO : a slap on the wrist is the verdict. Ask you legal eagle out there ? Are there case precedence out there for the judge to draw inference from? Also this case came about from poison pens, from ex members who were disgruntled. How did this church suffered? A reduction in membership. I suspect it is business as usual for the Organization. Will they become smarter, sure. Apart from Creative financing scheme, I cannot fault anyone. They did not pocket the money illegally. If they did, they asked the church for permission. What does the saga shows us: an entity developed a goal to propagate its value proposition in a questionable way.
Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?
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Originally Posted by Babarella
IMHO : a slap on the wrist is the verdict. Ask you legal eagle out there ? Are there case precedence out there for the judge to draw inference from? Also this case came about from poison pens, from ex members who were disgruntled. How did this church suffered? A reduction in membership. I suspect it is business as usual for the Organization. Will they become smarter, sure. Apart from Creative financing scheme, I cannot fault anyone. They did not pocket the money illegally. If they did, they asked the church for permission. What does the saga shows us: an entity developed a goal to propagate its value proposition in a questionable way.
Very well said, sis ! ...a well knowledgeable sis who can make her own good analysis & inferences...& think & dwell deeply into the issue & problems of the case from the start to the finish...kudos to her ! ...Keep it up, sis !
Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?
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Originally Posted by Babarella
If they did, they asked the church for permission. What does the saga shows us: an entity developed a goal to propagate its value proposition in a questionable way.
I think u need to read up more about the case. If they did, it wont be CBT against them.
Also, a lot of the members are not aware of whats going on. Only the top echelon knows.
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?
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Originally Posted by Babarella
IMHO : a slap on the wrist is the verdict. Ask you legal eagle out there ? Are there case precedence out there for the judge to draw inference from? Also this case came about from poison pens, from ex members who were disgruntled. How did this church suffered? A reduction in membership. I suspect it is business as usual for the Organization..
The DPP did use a case of a principal of a school, who use the school money for the church retirement building, or something like that. The judge rule in favor of DPP, n he was jailed.
As for business as usual, what I read from MRslightnfriends facebook, they are due to pay back loans that are in millions. I doubt they are able to do so.
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?
The law has 3 components: judicial, enforcement and legistration. We need not get muddle up with the 3.
Do u believe a mega-sized church has the ABILITY ( please don't talk about the morality for now) to come out with $100 million in one Sunday? $80 million can just come out from 20% of the members using the law of Pareto which states and I quote, The Pareto principle (also known as the 80–20 rule, the law of the vital few, and the principle of factor sparsity) states that, for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes.
You may need to filter out the noises of the case and delve into the details for superficiallity causes us to make biased opinions the truth. I say you read it more throughly and not let other's opinion become your reality.
Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?
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Originally Posted by Babarella
The law has 3 components: judicial, enforcement and legistration. We need not get muddle up with the 3.
Do u believe a mega-sized church has the ABILITY ( please don't talk about the morality for now) to come out with $100 million in one Sunday? $80 million can just come out from 20% of the members using the law of Pareto which states and I quote, The Pareto principle (also known as the 80–20 rule, the law of the vital few, and the principle of factor sparsity) states that, for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes.
You may need to filter out the noises of the case and delve into the details for superficiallity causes us to make biased opinions the truth. I say you read it more throughly and not let other's opinion become your reality.
After 21 October, you see less members. More will get to know n probably stop attending.
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Re: What Are Your Predictions for City Harvest Case? Guilty or Not?
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Originally Posted by Qu Bu Qu Ma?
Thanks for info & predictions bro newyorker88.
Did come across some of the articles from mrslightnfriends / chc confessions. Fascinating read!
I will do Serina anytime!
I hear u bro durian.
So ... yr verdict? All acquitted?
Thanks for yr prediction bro kendom7.
So who do u think will escape with just a fine?
Serina?
I think so too. So fine or jail?
Thanks all for prediction! Stay tuned ...
So you asked me, who will be let off with only a fine? Well, like I have mentioned that it will be truly "shocking" as I am very sure even for those that will be found guilty, they will 100% appeal, and then the case will again be dragged on.. while on appeal I am sure they can all jolly well afford the hefty bail esp Mr KH.. So, Bro, for Ms Serina's case, I wont jumped to any conclusion, but a very wild stab into the dark dark hole, she might just be fine and worse case serve a few weeks or months behind bars.. dats my wild wild guess, so no haters ok hahahahaha.
Like you have said.... STAY TUNE.